[NCSG-EC] clarifications on election
Stephanie E Perrin
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Tue Jun 2 17:23:42 EEST 2020
yes, I agree. I think we had a discussion on this matter a while ago.
Our problem is that nobody thinks about it between elections.
SP
On 2020-06-02 8:06 a.m., Raoul Plommer via NCSG-EC wrote:
> The "transgender bit" is actually seriously hard to formulate, if we
> want to make sure we have at least two males and females in the
> council, without excluding the third gender. There is no way we could
> always (if ever) attract two transgender people on board. I can't come
> up with language that clears all the hurdles, at least not the top of
> my head. I think it'd be unwise to ignore this completely though.
> Could encourage anyone to start the process on better language on of
> the charter, but like it was already said, the elections aren't really
> the best time for it.
>
> -Raoul
>
> On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 06:45, Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix via NCSG-EC
> <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:
>
> Have you made arrangements re chairing the meeting? Do you want/Is
> one of us to take care of it, or is it Maryam that usually does in
> those cases?
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 11:21 PM U Of T
> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>
> Incidently, i unfortunately will not be able to attend the
> meeting tomorrow as i have a client conference that was booked
> months ago. I will keep an eye on skype, and if there is an
> emergency, please send me a ping and i will break away.
> Very sorry but this was unexpected. So was the stupid EPDP
> meeting also on tomorrow.
> Someone may wish to point out to these folks that my
> announcements if the election contained links to the relevant
> chunk of the Charter. Good idea to read the message.
> Cheers Steph
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 20:48, U Of T
>> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
>> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>>
>> I think those are great responses. Are you going to ignore
>> the transgender bit?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 20:26, Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix via
>>> NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is
>>> <mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for jumping in Robin, and thank you for the info!
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 6:15 PM Robin Gross
>>> <robin at ipjustice.org <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Raphael,
>>>
>>> Thanks for drafting this below. It is a NCSG rule that
>>> we have followed since the charter’s initial adoption in
>>> 2011. A few years ago, we were worried we wouldn’t have
>>> enough male candidates to meet the requirement. This
>>> year, we almost lacked enough female candidates, but
>>> thanks to Stephanie we can meet our charter requirement.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Robin
>>>
>>>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix
>>>> <rbeauregardlacroix at GMAIL.COM
>>>> <mailto:rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm afraid some "dissent" might catch on and snowball.
>>>> I'm not totally convinced of the wisdom of replying at
>>>> this point though, so open to any suggestion.
>>>>
>>>> But what I could foresee in terms of language:
>>>>
>>>> "Dear +++,
>>>>
>>>> The basis for the rules we follow regarding elections
>>>> to the GNSO can be found in Art. 3.1. of the Charter.
>>>> We have been using this system since +++. You may
>>>> disagree with it; there is indeed some rigidity to it.
>>>> You are also free to voice your disagreement.
>>>>
>>>> While elections are often a time where procedural
>>>> debates arise, we would however encourage discussions
>>>> about changes to our electoral system for the GNSO
>>>> Council positions to take place outside the electoral
>>>> period. The reason for this is that a change to this
>>>> electoral process would require a Charter amendment, in
>>>> line with the rules at Art. 5 of said Charter.
>>>>
>>>> You can find the most recent version of the Charter
>>>> here:
>>>> https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/filefield_25801/ncsg-charter-05may11-en.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your understanding and continued engagement,"
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 1:51 PM Raphael
>>>> Beauregard-Lacroix <rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes sounds all good, and thanks a lot for
>>>> volunteering language :)
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 1:21 PM Robin Gross via
>>>> NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is
>>>> <mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> EC Members:
>>>>
>>>> I’d like to send the following message to the
>>>> discuss list to help set expectations regarding
>>>> this election. Please let me know if you
>>>> object before 12:00 PT today because I will
>>>> send it then in keeping with our election
>>>> timetable. Thanks for your quick response!
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Robin
>>>> ==========
>>>>
>>>> NCSG Members:
>>>>
>>>> I want to clarify a few issues in advance
>>>> regarding the current NCSG election.
>>>>
>>>> 1. We have 4 GNSO Council seats up for
>>>> election. The top 3 vote getters will receive
>>>> a two-year term. The 4th place vote getter
>>>> will only be for a one-year term because it is
>>>> filling a seat mid-term. This is subject to
>>>> paragraph 2 below.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Regarding the gender diversity rule for the
>>>> GNSO Council, the NCSG Charter provides that
>>>> “in no circumstance should there be fewer than
>>>> two members of any gender.” As Tatiana is
>>>> presently our only continuing female member,
>>>> Stephanie will automatically be elected to the
>>>> GNSO Council regardless of how many votes she
>>>> receives because we are required to have at
>>>> least two female Council members under our
>>>> charter. So the gender rule, trumps the number
>>>> of votes earned in terms of winning a seat.
>>>> This means that Stephanie + the top 3 vote
>>>> getters from the other candidates will be
>>>> elected to Council.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Our regional diversity rules should not be
>>>> a factor in this election, however, because no
>>>> more than two members would be declared
>>>> resident of the same geographic region.
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