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<p>yes, I agree. I think we had a discussion on this matter a while
ago. Our problem is that nobody thinks about it between
elections.</p>
<p>SP<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2020-06-02 8:06 a.m., Raoul Plommer
via NCSG-EC wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">The "transgender bit" is actually seriously hard to
formulate, if we want to make sure we have at least two males
and females in the council, without excluding the third gender.
There is no way we could always (if ever) attract two
transgender people on board. I can't come up with language that
clears all the hurdles, at least not the top of my head. I think
it'd be unwise to ignore this completely though. Could encourage
anyone to start the process on better language on of the
charter, but like it was already said, the elections aren't
really the best time for it.
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<div>-Raoul</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 06:45,
Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix via NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" moz-do-not-send="true">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">Have you made arrangements re chairing the
meeting? Do you want/Is one of us to take care of it, or is
it Maryam that usually does in those cases? </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at
11:21 PM U Of T <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>
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<div dir="auto">Incidently, i unfortunately will not be
able to attend the meeting tomorrow as i have a client
conference that was booked months ago. I will keep an
eye on skype, and if there is an emergency, please send
me a ping and i will break away.
<div>Very sorry but this was unexpected. So was the
stupid EPDP meeting also on tomorrow. </div>
<div>Someone may wish to point out to these folks that
my announcements if the election contained links to
the relevant chunk of the Charter. Good idea to read
the message.</div>
<div>Cheers Steph<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I think those are great responses.
Are you going to ignore the transgender bit?<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
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20:26, Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix via NCSG-EC
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks for jumping in Robin,
and thank you for the info!</div>
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Jun 1, 2020 at 6:15 PM Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">robin@ipjustice.org</a>>
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<div>Raphael,
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<div>Thanks for drafting this below. It
is a NCSG rule that we have followed
since the charter’s initial adoption
in 2011. A few years ago, we were
worried we wouldn’t have enough male
candidates to meet the requirement.
This year, we almost lacked enough
female candidates, but thanks to
Stephanie we can meet our charter
requirement. </div>
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<div>Best,</div>
<div>Robin</div>
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<div>On Jun 1, 2020, at 3:06 PM,
Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix <<a href="mailto:rbeauregardlacroix@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rbeauregardlacroix@GMAIL.COM</a>>
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<div>Hi all,</div>
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I'm afraid some "dissent"
might catch on and snowball.
I'm not totally convinced of
the wisdom of replying at
this point though, so open
to any suggestion.<br>
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<div>But what I could foresee
in terms of language: </div>
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<div>"Dear +++,</div>
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<div>The basis for the rules
we follow regarding
elections to the GNSO can be
found in Art. 3.1. of the
Charter. We have been using
this system since +++. You
may disagree with it; there
is indeed some rigidity to
it. You are also free to
voice your disagreement.</div>
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<div>While elections are often
a time where procedural
debates arise, we would
however encourage
discussions about changes to
our electoral system for the
GNSO Council positions to
take place outside the
electoral period. The reason
for this is that a change to
this electoral process would
require a Charter amendment,
in line with the rules at
Art. 5 of said Charter.</div>
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<div>You can find the most
recent version of the
Charter here: <a href="https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/filefield_25801/ncsg-charter-05may11-en.pdf" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/filefield_25801/ncsg-charter-05may11-en.pdf</a></div>
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<div>Thank you for your
understanding and continued
engagement,"</div>
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Jun 1, 2020 at 1:51 PM
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<div dir="ltr">Yes sounds
all good, and thanks a lot
for volunteering language
:) </div>
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Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 1:21
PM Robin Gross via
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Members:<br>
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I’d like to send the
following message to the
discuss list to help set
expectations regarding
this election. Please
let me know if you
object before 12:00 PT
today because I will
send it then in keeping
with our election
timetable. Thanks for
your quick response!<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Robin<br>
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NCSG Members:<br>
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I want to clarify a few
issues in advance
regarding the current
NCSG election. <br>
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1. We have 4 GNSO
Council seats up for
election. The top 3
vote getters will
receive a two-year
term. The 4th place
vote getter will only be
for a one-year term
because it is filling a
seat mid-term. This is
subject to paragraph 2
below.<br>
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2. Regarding the gender
diversity rule for the
GNSO Council, the NCSG
Charter provides that
“in no circumstance
should there be fewer
than two members of any
gender.” As Tatiana is
presently our only
continuing female
member, Stephanie will
automatically be elected
to the GNSO Council
regardless of how many
votes she receives
because we are required
to have at least two
female Council members
under our charter. So
the gender rule, trumps
the number of votes
earned in terms of
winning a seat. This
means that Stephanie +
the top 3 vote getters
from the other
candidates will be
elected to Council.<br>
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3. Our regional
diversity rules should
not be a factor in this
election, however,
because no more than two
members would be
declared resident of the
same geographic region.<br>
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