[NCSG-SubPro] [NCSG-PC] Should we invite SubPro ODP team to our Policy Call?

Tomslin Samme-Nlar mesumbeslin at gmail.com
Sun May 8 23:34:22 EEST 2022


Thanks Bruna.  Good suggestion to take it to the members call, if others
agree.

Warmly,
Tomslin

On Sun, 8 May 2022, 23:28 Bruna Martins dos Santos, <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Heya, Tomslin,
>
> I guess we need to wait for other ppls opinion on this issue but I believe
> it could be a good and informative opportunity for the NCSG and those of us
> involved in subpro discussions.
>
> Having said that, if we decide on hosting such discussion I believe it
> would fit better on the Membership call instead. I believe we have received
> many parts of the community on our membership meetings and by doing so, it
> allows the PC to further discuss it on a more private environment. But
> these are just my thoughts.
>
> Best,
> Bruna
>
> On Sun 8. May 2022 at 13:00, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi PC and subpro-listers,
>>
>> In addition to my update email to the general mailing list, also note
>> that the SubPro ODP team has said that they are available to have sessions
>> with those groups (as well as ACs) during ICANN 74 should any of them want
>> to schedule that in their sessions.
>> Let me know please whether you think it would be a good idea to invite
>> them to our policy call during ICANN74.
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Tomslin
>> @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: Jeff Neuman <jeff at jjnsolutions.com>
>> Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 at 02:02
>> Subject: SubPro Update - May 4, 2022 (SSAD LITE WILL DELAY SUBPRO ODP)
>> To: philippe.fouquart at orange.com <philippe.fouquart at orange.com>,
>> Sebastien at registry.godaddy <sebastien at registry.godaddy>, Tomslin
>> Samme-Nlar (mesumbeslin at gmail.com) <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Steve Chan <steve.chan at icann.org>, SubPro ODP Mailman List <
>> subpro-odp at icann.org>
>>
>>
>> Dear GNSO Council Leadership,
>>
>>
>>
>> Please find below my SubPro update from a call I had with the SubPro ODP
>> Team at the end of next week.  Can you please forward to the Council List?
>>
>>
>>
>> Please note that we really need to discuss #1 below to make sure that the
>> Council understands and agrees with whether to move ahead with *SSAD
>> Lite* prior to completing the SubPro ODP.  Doing so will cause
>> substantial delay to the SubPro ODP according to ICANN Org.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeff Neuman
>>
>> GNSO Liaison to the SubPro ODP
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
>>
>> At the end of last week, the SubPro ODP Team had its monthly meeting with
>> the GNSO Council Liaison and we covered the following topics:
>>
>>
>>
>>    1. *Impact of SSAD Lite Work:*  The Council is considering asking
>>    ICANN Org to do some work designing an SSAD Lite and presenting that to the
>>    community.  *The SubPro ODP Team has explained that doing so will
>>    cause at least 6 weeks delay in the SubPro ODP.  *Therefore, the
>>    Council needs to consider whether that work should be done and if so
>>    whether that should be done before or after the completion of the SubPro
>>    ODP.  *This is only for designing the SSAD Lite.  If the Council
>>    wants it built after the design, then that could be months more delay for
>>    the SubPro ODP.*
>>
>>
>>
>>    1. *ICANN 74:*
>>
>>
>>
>>    1. According to the ICANN ODP team, the SO/AC team that works on the
>>       agenda for the meeting rejected the proposal made by the SubPro ODP team to
>>       have a policy meeting that focused primarily on SubPro.  We are still
>>       unclear if that means that there will be no ODP sessions at ICANN 74 or
>>       whether there may be 1.
>>       2. There will be a SubPro meeting during the Prep Week for ICANN
>>       74.  Because this will be near the mid point of the ODP, we will try to
>>       make this session interactive (as much as a prep week session will be), but
>>       the goal is to not make it an update session where the entire time is spent
>>       updating the community on what has been done and whats left to do, but
>>       rather to focus on substantive issues (TBD).
>>       3. The SubPro ODP Team wants to let each of the SGs and Cs know
>>       that they are available to have sessions with those groups (as well as ACs)
>>       during ICANN 74 should any of them want to schedule that in their sessions.
>>
>>
>>
>>    1. *Question Set #3*:
>>       1. On April 11, 2022, Question Set #3 was sent to the Council for
>>       its comments.  Shortly thereafter I provided draft answers to the questions
>>       and sent them out to the Council (found here
>>       <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OtddNIUaAitHiJPE8pBTBcirTaDjyzPkcZY6BJmJxzg/edit?usp=sharing>).
>>       This is a reminder to please give  your input into the proposed responses.
>>       2. Although there has been a comment in the draft responses to the
>>       ICANN SubPro ODP Team (who has access to the Google Doc), I formally
>>       submitted the comment in the form of a clarifying question today (May 4
>>       th) about the meaning of the final question in Question Set #3.
>>
>>
>>
>>    1. *Question Set #4*:  According to the ICANN ODP Team, we are going
>>    to shortly get ODP Set #4 which will be lengthy, but will hopefully be one
>>    of the last question sets as the ODP Is moving forward in its work.
>>
>>
>>
>>    1. *Timeline to Completion*:  At this point there is nothing to
>>    believe that the work will not be completed on time, *BUT* to the
>>    extent that any further work needs to be done on SSAD Lite, this will push
>>    the ODP back by at least 6 weeks.  See #1.
>>
>>
>>
>> If at all possible, I would like to add an agenda item on SubPro ODP for
>> the next Council meeting so that we can discuss the impact of the SSAD Lite
>> on the SubPro ODP and what the Council wants to prioritize.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeffrey J. Neuman
>>
>> Founder & CEO
>>
>> JJN Solutions, LLC
>>
>> p: +1.202.549.5079
>>
>> E: jeff at jjnsolutions.com
>>
>> http://jjnsolutions.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> --
>
> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>
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>
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>
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