[NCSG-SubPro] [NCSG-PC] Should we invite SubPro ODP team to our Policy Call?

Wisdom Donkor wisdom.dk at gmail.com
Mon May 9 00:23:36 EEST 2022 

Good suggestion Bruna. I also agree to take it to members' calls.
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On Sun, May 8, 2022 at 8:34 PM Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Bruna.  Good suggestion to take it to the members call, if others
> agree.
>
> Warmly,
> Tomslin
>
> On Sun, 8 May 2022, 23:28 Bruna Martins dos Santos, <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Heya, Tomslin,
>>
>> I guess we need to wait for other ppls opinion on this issue but I
>> believe it could be a good and informative opportunity for the NCSG and
>> those of us involved in subpro discussions.
>>
>> Having said that, if we decide on hosting such discussion I believe it
>> would fit better on the Membership call instead. I believe we have received
>> many parts of the community on our membership meetings and by doing so, it
>> allows the PC to further discuss it on a more private environment. But
>> these are just my thoughts.
>>
>> Best,
>> Bruna
>>
>> On Sun 8. May 2022 at 13:00, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi PC and subpro-listers,
>>>
>>> In addition to my update email to the general mailing list, also note
>>> that the SubPro ODP team has said that they are available to have sessions
>>> with those groups (as well as ACs) during ICANN 74 should any of them want
>>> to schedule that in their sessions.
>>> Let me know please whether you think it would be a good idea to invite
>>> them to our policy call during ICANN74.
>>>
>>> Warmly,
>>> Tomslin
>>> @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: Jeff Neuman <jeff at jjnsolutions.com>
>>> Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 at 02:02
>>> Subject: SubPro Update - May 4, 2022 (SSAD LITE WILL DELAY SUBPRO ODP)
>>> To: philippe.fouquart at orange.com <philippe.fouquart at orange.com>,
>>> Sebastien at registry.godaddy <sebastien at registry.godaddy>, Tomslin
>>> Samme-Nlar (mesumbeslin at gmail.com) <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
>>> Cc: Steve Chan <steve.chan at icann.org>, SubPro ODP Mailman List <
>>> subpro-odp at icann.org>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear GNSO Council Leadership,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please find below my SubPro update from a call I had with the SubPro ODP
>>> Team at the end of next week.  Can you please forward to the Council List?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please note that we really need to discuss #1 below to make sure that
>>> the Council understands and agrees with whether to move ahead with *SSAD
>>> Lite* prior to completing the SubPro ODP.  Doing so will cause
>>> substantial delay to the SubPro ODP according to ICANN Org.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeff Neuman
>>>
>>> GNSO Liaison to the SubPro ODP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At the end of last week, the SubPro ODP Team had its monthly meeting
>>> with the GNSO Council Liaison and we covered the following topics:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    1. *Impact of SSAD Lite Work:*  The Council is considering asking
>>>    ICANN Org to do some work designing an SSAD Lite and presenting that to the
>>>    community.  *The SubPro ODP Team has explained that doing so will
>>>    cause at least 6 weeks delay in the SubPro ODP.  *Therefore, the
>>>    Council needs to consider whether that work should be done and if so
>>>    whether that should be done before or after the completion of the SubPro
>>>    ODP.  *This is only for designing the SSAD Lite.  If the Council
>>>    wants it built after the design, then that could be months more delay for
>>>    the SubPro ODP.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    1. *ICANN 74:*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    1. According to the ICANN ODP team, the SO/AC team that works on the
>>>       agenda for the meeting rejected the proposal made by the SubPro ODP team to
>>>       have a policy meeting that focused primarily on SubPro.  We are still
>>>       unclear if that means that there will be no ODP sessions at ICANN 74 or
>>>       whether there may be 1.
>>>       2. There will be a SubPro meeting during the Prep Week for ICANN
>>>       74.  Because this will be near the mid point of the ODP, we will try to
>>>       make this session interactive (as much as a prep week session will be), but
>>>       the goal is to not make it an update session where the entire time is spent
>>>       updating the community on what has been done and whats left to do, but
>>>       rather to focus on substantive issues (TBD).
>>>       3. The SubPro ODP Team wants to let each of the SGs and Cs know
>>>       that they are available to have sessions with those groups (as well as ACs)
>>>       during ICANN 74 should any of them want to schedule that in their sessions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    1. *Question Set #3*:
>>>       1. On April 11, 2022, Question Set #3 was sent to the Council for
>>>       its comments.  Shortly thereafter I provided draft answers to the questions
>>>       and sent them out to the Council (found here
>>>       <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OtddNIUaAitHiJPE8pBTBcirTaDjyzPkcZY6BJmJxzg/edit?usp=sharing>).
>>>       This is a reminder to please give  your input into the proposed responses.
>>>       2. Although there has been a comment in the draft responses to
>>>       the ICANN SubPro ODP Team (who has access to the Google Doc), I formally
>>>       submitted the comment in the form of a clarifying question today (May 4
>>>       th) about the meaning of the final question in Question Set #3.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    1. *Question Set #4*:  According to the ICANN ODP Team, we are going
>>>    to shortly get ODP Set #4 which will be lengthy, but will hopefully be one
>>>    of the last question sets as the ODP Is moving forward in its work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    1. *Timeline to Completion*:  At this point there is nothing to
>>>    believe that the work will not be completed on time, *BUT* to the
>>>    extent that any further work needs to be done on SSAD Lite, this will push
>>>    the ODP back by at least 6 weeks.  See #1.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If at all possible, I would like to add an agenda item on SubPro ODP for
>>> the next Council meeting so that we can discuss the impact of the SSAD Lite
>>> on the SubPro ODP and what the Council wants to prioritize.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeffrey J. Neuman
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> E: jeff at jjnsolutions.com
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> --
>>
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>>
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