[NCSG-SubPro] [NCSG-PC] Should we invite SubPro ODP team to our Policy Call?

Sun May 8 16:28:17 EEST 2022

Heya, Tomslin,

I guess we need to wait for other ppls opinion on this issue but I believe
it could be a good and informative opportunity for the NCSG and those of us
involved in subpro discussions.

Having said that, if we decide on hosting such discussion I believe it
would fit better on the Membership call instead. I believe we have received
many parts of the community on our membership meetings and by doing so, it
allows the PC to further discuss it on a more private environment. But
these are just my thoughts.

Best,
Bruna

On Sun 8. May 2022 at 13:00, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi PC and subpro-listers,
>
> In addition to my update email to the general mailing list, also note that
> the SubPro ODP team has said that they are available to have sessions with
> those groups (as well as ACs) during ICANN 74 should any of them want to
> schedule that in their sessions.
> Let me know please whether you think it would be a good idea to invite
> them to our policy call during ICANN74.
>
> Warmly,
> Tomslin
> @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Jeff Neuman <jeff at jjnsolutions.com>
> Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 at 02:02
> Subject: SubPro Update - May 4, 2022 (SSAD LITE WILL DELAY SUBPRO ODP)
> To: philippe.fouquart at orange.com <philippe.fouquart at orange.com>,
> Sebastien at registry.godaddy <sebastien at registry.godaddy>, Tomslin
> Samme-Nlar (mesumbeslin at gmail.com) <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
> Cc: Steve Chan <steve.chan at icann.org>, SubPro ODP Mailman List <
> subpro-odp at icann.org>
>
>
> Dear GNSO Council Leadership,
>
>
>
> Please find below my SubPro update from a call I had with the SubPro ODP
> Team at the end of next week.  Can you please forward to the Council List?
>
>
>
> Please note that we really need to discuss #1 below to make sure that the
> Council understands and agrees with whether to move ahead with *SSAD Lite*
> prior to completing the SubPro ODP.  Doing so will cause substantial delay
> to the SubPro ODP according to ICANN Org.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Jeff Neuman
>
> GNSO Liaison to the SubPro ODP
>
>
>
>
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
> At the end of last week, the SubPro ODP Team had its monthly meeting with
> the GNSO Council Liaison and we covered the following topics:
>
>
>
>    1. *Impact of SSAD Lite Work:*  The Council is considering asking
>    ICANN Org to do some work designing an SSAD Lite and presenting that to the
>    community.  *The SubPro ODP Team has explained that doing so will
>    cause at least 6 weeks delay in the SubPro ODP.  *Therefore, the
>    Council needs to consider whether that work should be done and if so
>    whether that should be done before or after the completion of the SubPro
>    ODP.  *This is only for designing the SSAD Lite.  If the Council wants
>    it built after the design, then that could be months more delay for the
>    SubPro ODP.*
>
>
>
>    1. *ICANN 74:*
>
>
>
>    1. According to the ICANN ODP team, the SO/AC team that works on the
>       agenda for the meeting rejected the proposal made by the SubPro ODP team to
>       have a policy meeting that focused primarily on SubPro.  We are still
>       unclear if that means that there will be no ODP sessions at ICANN 74 or
>       whether there may be 1.
>       2. There will be a SubPro meeting during the Prep Week for ICANN
>       74.  Because this will be near the mid point of the ODP, we will try to
>       make this session interactive (as much as a prep week session will be), but
>       the goal is to not make it an update session where the entire time is spent
>       updating the community on what has been done and whats left to do, but
>       rather to focus on substantive issues (TBD).
>       3. The SubPro ODP Team wants to let each of the SGs and Cs know
>       that they are available to have sessions with those groups (as well as ACs)
>       during ICANN 74 should any of them want to schedule that in their sessions.
>
>
>
>    1. *Question Set #3*:
>       1. On April 11, 2022, Question Set #3 was sent to the Council for
>       its comments.  Shortly thereafter I provided draft answers to the questions
>       and sent them out to the Council (found here
>       <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OtddNIUaAitHiJPE8pBTBcirTaDjyzPkcZY6BJmJxzg/edit?usp=sharing>).
>       This is a reminder to please give  your input into the proposed responses.
>       2. Although there has been a comment in the draft responses to the
>       ICANN SubPro ODP Team (who has access to the Google Doc), I formally
>       submitted the comment in the form of a clarifying question today (May 4
>       th) about the meaning of the final question in Question Set #3.
>
>
>
>    1. *Question Set #4*:  According to the ICANN ODP Team, we are going
>    to shortly get ODP Set #4 which will be lengthy, but will hopefully be one
>    of the last question sets as the ODP Is moving forward in its work.
>
>
>
>    1. *Timeline to Completion*:  At this point there is nothing to
>    believe that the work will not be completed on time, *BUT* to the
>    extent that any further work needs to be done on SSAD Lite, this will push
>    the ODP back by at least 6 weeks.  See #1.
>
>
>
> If at all possible, I would like to add an agenda item on SubPro ODP for
> the next Council meeting so that we can discuss the impact of the SSAD Lite
> on the SubPro ODP and what the Council wants to prioritize.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jeffrey J. Neuman
>
> Founder & CEO
>
> JJN Solutions, LLC
>
> p: +1.202.549.5079
>
> E: jeff at jjnsolutions.com
>
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