[NCSG-SubPro] Should we invite SubPro ODP team to our Policy Call?

Tomslin Samme-Nlar mesumbeslin at gmail.com
Sun May 8 14:00:28 EEST 2022

Hi PC and subpro-listers,

In addition to my update email to the general mailing list, also note that
the SubPro ODP team has said that they are available to have sessions with
those groups (as well as ACs) during ICANN 74 should any of them want to
schedule that in their sessions.
Let me know please whether you think it would be a good idea to invite them
to our policy call during ICANN74.

@LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Jeff Neuman <jeff at jjnsolutions.com>
Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 at 02:02
Subject: SubPro Update - May 4, 2022 (SSAD LITE WILL DELAY SUBPRO ODP)
To: philippe.fouquart at orange.com <philippe.fouquart at orange.com>,
Sebastien at registry.godaddy <sebastien at registry.godaddy>, Tomslin Samme-Nlar
(mesumbeslin at gmail.com) <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
Cc: Steve Chan <steve.chan at icann.org>, SubPro ODP Mailman List <
subpro-odp at icann.org>

Dear GNSO Council Leadership,

Please find below my SubPro update from a call I had with the SubPro ODP
Team at the end of next week.  Can you please forward to the Council List?

Please note that we really need to discuss #1 below to make sure that the
Council understands and agrees with whether to move ahead with *SSAD Lite*
prior to completing the SubPro ODP.  Doing so will cause substantial delay
to the SubPro ODP according to ICANN Org.


Jeff Neuman

GNSO Liaison to the SubPro ODP


At the end of last week, the SubPro ODP Team had its monthly meeting with
the GNSO Council Liaison and we covered the following topics:

   1. *Impact of SSAD Lite Work:*  The Council is considering asking ICANN
   Org to do some work designing an SSAD Lite and presenting that to the
   community.  *The SubPro ODP Team has explained that doing so will cause
   at least 6 weeks delay in the SubPro ODP.  *Therefore, the Council needs
   to consider whether that work should be done and if so whether that should
   be done before or after the completion of the SubPro ODP.  *This is only
   for designing the SSAD Lite.  If the Council wants it built after the
   design, then that could be months more delay for the SubPro ODP.*

   1. *ICANN 74:*

   1. According to the ICANN ODP team, the SO/AC team that works on the
      agenda for the meeting rejected the proposal made by the SubPro
ODP team to
      have a policy meeting that focused primarily on SubPro.  We are still
      unclear if that means that there will be no ODP sessions at ICANN 74 or
      whether there may be 1.
      2. There will be a SubPro meeting during the Prep Week for ICANN 74.
      Because this will be near the mid point of the ODP, we will try to make
      this session interactive (as much as a prep week session will
be), but the
      goal is to not make it an update session where the entire time is spent
      updating the community on what has been done and whats left to do, but
      rather to focus on substantive issues (TBD).
      3. The SubPro ODP Team wants to let each of the SGs and Cs know that
      they are available to have sessions with those groups (as well as ACs)
      during ICANN 74 should any of them want to schedule that in
their sessions.

   1. *Question Set #3*:
      1. On April 11, 2022, Question Set #3 was sent to the Council for its
      comments.  Shortly thereafter I provided draft answers to the
questions and
      sent them out to the Council (found here
      This is a reminder to please give  your input into the proposed responses.
      2. Although there has been a comment in the draft responses to the
      ICANN SubPro ODP Team (who has access to the Google Doc), I formally
      submitted the comment in the form of a clarifying question today (May 4
      th) about the meaning of the final question in Question Set #3.

   1. *Question Set #4*:  According to the ICANN ODP Team, we are going to
   shortly get ODP Set #4 which will be lengthy, but will hopefully be one of
   the last question sets as the ODP Is moving forward in its work.

   1. *Timeline to Completion*:  At this point there is nothing to believe
   that the work will not be completed on time, *BUT* to the extent that
   any further work needs to be done on SSAD Lite, this will push the ODP back
   by at least 6 weeks.  See #1.

If at all possible, I would like to add an agenda item on SubPro ODP for
the next Council meeting so that we can discuss the impact of the SSAD Lite
on the SubPro ODP and what the Council wants to prioritize.



Jeffrey J. Neuman

Founder & CEO

JJN Solutions, LLC

p: +1.202.549.5079

E: jeff at jjnsolutions.com

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