[NCSG-PC] Fwd: [Call for Volunteers] Appointment of representative and alternate to the PPSAI IRT
Tomslin Samme-Nlar
mesumbeslin at gmail.com
Tue Jun 11 12:31:35 EEST 2024
FYI
Warmly,
Tomslin
@LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/
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From: Pedro de Perdigão Lana <pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2024 at 15:52
Subject: Re: [Call for Volunteers] Appointment of representative and
alternate to the PPSAI IRT
To: Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
Hi Tomslin,
If no one else applies for this, I may do it, preferably as an alternate
(since I plan to apply for the Pilot Holistic Review and, in 2025 or 2026,
the UDRP WP, and have little knowledge of the facts that lead to the PPSAI
IRT). I have some background in data protection, academically and
professionally. I am currently working as a lawyer in the "Conformity" (an
area similar to compliance, but a little broader) in NIC.br - I do not
represent this ".br" registry within ICANN, just my personal positions,
aligned with other non-profit organizations that I'm a board member.
As a specific conflict of interest related to this issue (another reason
why I prefer to be an alternate), I can't go directly against my employer's
positions on certain data protection topics - which is relevant, for
example, for WhoIs data disclosure, since there are some differences
between NCSG position on the subject and the one adopted by NIC.br
Here is the link to my SOI:
https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=300613648
Cordially,
*Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>
Researcher
PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) <https://www.ncuc.org/>, ISOC BR
<https://isoc.org.br/>, CC Brasil <https://br.creativecommons.net/> and IODA
<https://ioda.org.br/>
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Em seg., 3 de jun. de 2024 às 00:00, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <
mesumbeslin at gmail.com> escreveu:
> Hi members,
>
> I haven't heard back on this. So, I am following up to know whether the PC
> should proceed with appointing a representative to the IRT or decline to.
>
> Warmly,
> Tomslin
>
> On Tue, 28 May 2024, 09:53 Tomslin Samme-Nlar, <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the comments @farzi, @Kathy, @Ponce and @Pedro.
>>
>> @Pedro, you ask an important question, "*are we ... appointing
>> volunteers while we wait for the GNSO council to act or is it better to
>> refuse to nominate someone for now*? ". I wait to hear what our members
>> think.
>>
>> On the GNSO action side of things, Find my a brief of what has transpired
>> in the council since 2019 on this topic below but I'd also like input from @Stephanie
>> Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> who is one of the council
>> liaisons to the PPSAI IRT:
>>
>> - As a result of potential conflicts and/or overlap of work between the
>> PPSAI IRT and GDPR-related work in EPDP on Temp Spec, in March 2019, ICANN
>> org asked the GNSO Council, “whether ICANN org should continue to delay
>> public comment and implementation of PPSAI or take additional steps pending
>> completion of the EPDP in consultation with the PPSAI Implementation Review
>> Team (IRT).
>> - Council responded to Org saying, “*given the divergent views among
>> Councilors* and considering the respective roles of ICANN Org in leading
>> implementation work of consensus policy recommendations and the PPSAI IRT
>> in overseeing the implementation work, the GNSO *Council considers it
>> appropriate to defer the decision on this issue to ICANN org and the PPSAI
>> IRT*, taking into account the various views of the SOs and ACs.”
>> [emphasis added]
>> - On 2 March 2021, ICANN org delivered the Wave 1.5 Report
>> <https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/council/2021-March/024506.html> to the
>> GNSO Council, which included a detailed analysis of the extent to which the
>> EPDP Phase 1 recommendations may require modification to the PPSAI and
>> Translation & Transliteration policies, which are in the policy
>> implementation phase. Following review of the Wave 1.5 Report, the Council
>> observed the following in its 1 July 2021 letter [gnso.icann.org]
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/fouquart-to-lentz-01jul21-en.pdf__;!!PtGJab4!72Ceiu66uyoV0OHChjdR9frkPlBYYXnOJZ5zB8r86XzWBmEUoVf8ybKlInPdH4obWmz6r2jOJd6I6Op0U5lFnsYtCg$>
>> :
>>
>>
>>
>> - *The decision to pause the implementation of the PPSAI and
>> Translation & Transliteration policy recommendations was a decision that
>> was made by ICANN org, not the GNSO Council. As such, the Council is of the
>> view that a decision to restart the implementation activities is not within
>> the remit of the GNSO Council but for ICANN org* to make.
>> - *Should any policy issues arise during the implementation of these
>> policy recommendations, there are processes and procedures that allow the
>> Council to further consider these*, but the Council is of the view
>> that the respective Implementation Review Teams (IRTs) will be best placed
>> to identify such possible issues.
>> - The Council would also like to point to the letter
>> <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/namazi-to-drazek-et-al-05sep19-en.pdf>
>> that was sent to the Council in September 2019 in which it was noted that
>> “following the completion of relevant EPDP work, ICANN org will reassess
>> the existing draft PP materials in consultation with the PPSAI IRT
>> and determine how to proceed with implementation of the Privacy and Proxy
>> Services Accreditation Program”. From a Council’s perspective this still
>> seems a relevant and timely next step.
>>
>> So, as you can see, the council holds the view that if there are issues
>> arising in the policy as drafted during implementation, they are confident
>> that the issues can be addressed with existing processes and procedures.
>>
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Tomslin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 28 May 2024 at 07:06, Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
>> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> Regarding the strategy on how to approach this problem, are we
>>> nonetheless appointing volunteers while we wait for the GNSO council to act
>>> or is it better to refuse to nominate someone for now?
>>>
>>> Cordially,
>>>
>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>
>>> Researcher
>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>> Board Member @ CC Brasil <https://br.creativecommons.net/>, ISOC BR
>>> <https://isoc.org.br/> and IODA <https://ioda.org.br/>
>>> This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received
>>> by mistake, please reply informing it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Em seg., 27 de mai. de 2024 às 11:35, Poncelet Ileleji <
>>> pileleji at jokkolabs.co> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> +1 kathy +1 Farzi, I can't agree more
>>>>
>>>> *Poncelet O. Ileleji*
>>>>
>>>> *Jokkolabs Banjul - Lead / CEO*
>>>> *Sait Matty Road, Bakau, Adjacent to Swedish Consulate*
>>>> *KMC, The Gambia*
>>>> *P O Box 4496 Bakau,KMC, The Gambia*
>>>> *Skype: pons_utd*
>>>> *Tel Direct Office: +220 4495115*
>>>>
>>>> *Tel Mobile/Whatsapp: +220 9912508*
>>>>
>>>> *LinkedIn: Jokkolabs Banjul*
>>>> *Facebook: Jokkolabs Banjul*
>>>> *Twitter: @jBanjul*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 1:46 PM Kathy Kleiman <kathy at dnrc.tech> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1 to Farzi, and an Implementation Review Team (run by ICANN Staff)
>>>>> is hardly the place to state that the law has gone in a completely
>>>>> different direction since the original Policy was negotiated. No one on
>>>>> the ICANN Board or Staff feels empowered to "stop this train" although it
>>>>> is eight years old and badly out of date.
>>>>>
>>>>> *That power rests in the GNSO Council. Can we (NCSG), through our
>>>>> Councilors, call for a legal review of the proposed PPSAI for problems (if
>>>>> any) with its underlying legal foundation in light of the adoption of GDPR
>>>>> and over half the countries of the world now following the European
>>>>> "comprehensive right of privacy"? *
>>>>>
>>>>> Best and asking all of our current Councilors (past and future ones
>>>>> too),
>>>>>
>>>>> Kathy
>>>>> On 5/27/2024 9:26 AM, farzaneh badii wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tomslin,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a bit odd. Didn’t we discuss that most of those policy
>>>>> recommendations were outdated and could not be implemented? Are they hoping
>>>>> that by doing the IRT we can undertake feasibility for the recommendations?
>>>>>
>>>>> This is why I did suggest considering time limits for implementing
>>>>> policies. You can’t come up with a policy and then want to enforce it 8
>>>>> years later! Especially in the technology space, that is not possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 5:53 AM Tomslin Samme-Nlar <
>>>>> mesumbeslin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear members,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a request from Org for SG/Cs to appoint a representative and
>>>>>> an alternate to the PPSAI IRT. We (NCSG) had concerns with the IRT going
>>>>>> ahead but as you can see, Org is still going ahead with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NCSG is seeking a representative and an alternate. Please read below
>>>>>> for details of the role of the representative and on what the IRT will be
>>>>>> doing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Send your EOI to me (mesumbeslin at gmail.com) copying Julf (
>>>>>> julf at julf.com) and Andrea (andrea.glandon at icann.org) no later than
>>>>>> Friday May 31st 2023 for the policy committee's review.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>>> Tomslin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>>>> Subject: [GNSO-SG-C-Leadership] Appointment of representative
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> alternate to the PPSAI IRT
>>>>>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2024 19:59:02 +0000
>>>>>> From: Dennis Chang via GNSO-SG-C-Leadership
>>>>>> <gnso-sg-c-leadership at icann.org>
>>>>>> Reply-To: Dennis Chang <dennis.chang at icann.org>
>>>>>> To: gnso-sg-c-leadership at icann.org <
>>>>>> gnso-sg-c-leadership at icann.org>
>>>>>> CC: Leon Grundmann <leon.grundmann at icann.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Following the publication of the Call for Volunteers
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-seeks-volunteers-for-the-ppsai-implementation-review-team-20-05-2024-en>,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>>>>> organization (org) is pleased to invite you to nominate a
>>>>>> representative
>>>>>> and an alternate to the Proxy & Privacy Services (PPSAI) policy
>>>>>> Implementation Review Team (IRT).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The implementation process is an ICANN org-driven exercise. ICANN
>>>>>> org
>>>>>> plans to employ the “Open + Representative Model” piloted on the
>>>>>> Subsequent Procedures IRT and based on the GNSO’s PDP 3.0 model
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/pdp-3-2-working-group-models-10feb20-en.pdf.pdf>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The goal is to provide a structure that allows for efficient
>>>>>> resolution
>>>>>> of issues that may occur.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We kindly ask that your group nominate up to one representative and
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> to one alternate to participate in the IRT. Please note, we are
>>>>>> asking
>>>>>> each of ICANN’s supporting organizations, advisory committees,
>>>>>> stakeholder groups and constituencies to nominate up to one
>>>>>> representative and one alternate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Putting forward a representative and alternate is optional; all
>>>>>> members
>>>>>> of the GNSO Group are welcome to join the IRT as participants. In
>>>>>> fact,
>>>>>> we urge anyone who is interested in being selected as a
>>>>>> representative
>>>>>> to join the IRT as a participant first (call for volunteers
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-seeks-volunteers-for-the-ppsai-implementation-review-team-20-05-2024-en>).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As you will see below, the roles of participants and representatives
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> nearly identical, with the representatives’ main function being that
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> an information-bridge to their community groups.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ICANN org plans to host the first IRT call during the ICANN80 public
>>>>>> meeting in June 2024. We do not require the nominees for the first
>>>>>> meeting, but request that you conclude the nomination process and
>>>>>> inform
>>>>>> us of the nominees as soon as feasible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why Have Representatives?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While participants always speak in their own personal capacity,
>>>>>> representatives are expected to speak on behalf of their
>>>>>> constituency,
>>>>>> stakeholder group, supporting organization, or advisory committee.
>>>>>> Therefore, a key part of the representative’s role will be to engage
>>>>>> actively and consistently with their colleagues to ensure they can
>>>>>> convey their group’s viewpoints to the IRT. Please note, that this
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> require an efficient process for representatives to inform and
>>>>>> receive
>>>>>> input from their respective groups. To put this into place will be
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> responsibility of each representative.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In addition, when determining the level of consensus in the
>>>>>> circumstance
>>>>>> described in Section V.E. of the IRT Principles & Guidelines
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/irt-principles-guidelines-23aug16-en.pdf>,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the GNSO Liaison, in the Open + Representative model, shall take into
>>>>>> consideration that members who are representatives are expected to
>>>>>> express the viewpoint of their respective community groups and
>>>>>> participants to express their own views. This does not impact each
>>>>>> member’s ability to raise any concern they may have, nor does it
>>>>>> absolve
>>>>>> ICANN org or the GNSO Council liaison from “exercis[ing] all
>>>>>> reasonable
>>>>>> efforts to resolve disagreements” within the IRT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More information can be found on this PPSAI IRT wiki page
>>>>>> <https://community.icann.org/x/lQDSEw>. We are looking forward to
>>>>>> getting the IRT underway and, please, do not hesitate to reach out
>>>>>> should you have any questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dennis S. Chang
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GDD Programs Director
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phone: +1 213 293 7889
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sykpe: dennisSchang
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> One World – One Internet
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Kathy Kleiman
>>>>> Past President, Domain Name Rights Coalition
>>>>>
>>>>>
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