[NCSG-PC] Fwd: [gnso-chairs] GNSO/GAC dialogue on closed generics: selection of GNSO participants
Stephanie E Perrin
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Thu Sep 8 22:38:52 EEST 2022
Sounds like a great idea to me. Did your group ever get opinions from
government Competition Bureaus and/or departments when you were working
on closed generics?
cheers Stephanie
On 2022-09-07 10:01 a.m., Kathy Kleiman wrote:
>
> Hi Tomslin and All,
>
> I would like to recommend that I be appointed with George Sadowsky as
> an unofficial alternate. George as you know as an ICANN Board member
> for many years. But few know that before that he was a founding member
> of NCUC (NCSG would not be created for about decade after). In 1999,
> George was with New York University as IT director and joined us in
> founding NCUC and attending early meetings. We were his initial link
> to ICANN!
>
> He has now applied to join NCSG. Some Board members leave ICANN
> forever, but those who remain, tend to go back to the groups they came
> from. I hope we will approve his membership. And then I hope we can
> allow him to work with me on the Closed Generics issues. He is an
> expert on this issue from his time on the Board and knows how
> difficult and complicated it is. He helped make sure we heard from
> noncommercial organizations around the world before passing the first
> ban on Closed Generics. Later, when the Subsequent Procedures Working
> Group was looking closely at this issue, George (at my invitation)
> joined the Working Group to again share the complexities and potential
> problems of Closed Generics from his perspective (which include his
> more recent experience with many United Nations organizations).
>
> While technically the job is supposed to be for one person, it is too
> big for one volunteer (note: some attorneys will be paid by their
> clients and law firms to participate fully in this new group and there
> is a reason for that). ALAC plans to appoint a primary person and a
> backup person if the primary person cannot attend a meeting or
> discussion. Since I will be on book tour with my new book about the
> ENIAC Programmers, */Proving Ground, /*I think it would be good idea
> for us to have a similar arrangement. We don't want to miss a single
> Closed Generic meeting!
>
> Best and tx,
>
> Kathy
>
> On 9/6/2022 8:41 AM, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:
>> FYI, PC.
>>
>> I am still waiting on guidance from Bruna but I just wanted to bring
>> to your attention this statement in the meantime " /*This group would
>> ideally have a first informal meeting during ICANN 75, so we would
>> appreciate if you would let us know the name of your representative
>> ideally by September 19^th */."
>> It means we have only 2 weeks to name a representative for this. I
>> don't think it'll be a problem since Kathy Kleinman had indicated
>> interest already and was granted funding to KL based on that interest
>> but I thought I'd flag the urgency to the whole committee.
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Tomslin
>> @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: *philippe.fouquart--- via Gnso-chairs* <gnso-chairs at icann.org>
>> Date: Fri, 2 Sept 2022 at 22:01
>> Subject: [gnso-chairs] GNSO/GAC dialogue on closed generics:
>> selection of GNSO participants
>> To: mason.cole at appdetex.com <mason.cole at appdetex.com>,
>> wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>,
>> lschulman at inta.org <lschulman at inta.org>, bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>, plommer at gmail.com <plommer at gmail.com>,
>> benakin at gmail.com <benakin at gmail.com>, aheineman at godaddy.com
>> <aheineman at godaddy.com>, sdemetriou at verisign.com
>> <sdemetriou at verisign.com>, chair at rysg.info <chair at rysg.info>,
>> secretariat at rysg.info <secretariat at rysg.info>,
>> secretariat at icannregistrars.org <secretariat at icannregistrars.org>
>> Cc: gnso-secs at icann.org <gnso-secs at icann.org>, gnso-chairs at icann.org
>> <gnso-chairs at icann.org>, council at gnso icann. org <council at gnso.icann.org>
>>
>>
>> Dear SG/C leaders,
>>
>> Hope this email finds you all well.
>>
>> As you know, following an invitation from the Board, the GNSO and the
>> GAC will enter into a dialogue to “formulate a workable framework to
>> identify and handle closed generic applications for the immediate
>> next round of new gTLDs”, and in this dialogue we will be joined by
>> ALAC.
>>
>> Council leadership would like to invite each Stakeholder Group to
>> select a representative for this dialogue. This group is would
>> ideally have a first informal meeting during ICANN 75, so we would
>> appreciate if you would let us know the name of your representative
>> ideally by September 19^th .
>>
>> The attached document provides the guidance for this appointment.
>>
>> I would finally like to draw your attention to the spirit of
>> involvement in this effort:
>>
>> * the framework discussion will focus on options other than the two
>> endpoint positions (i.e. no closed generics at all; closed
>> generics without restrictions) as per the Board’s Proposed
>> Parameters for Dialogue
>> * the participants will "contribute as independent individuals,
>> bringing their individual experiences and expertise, and not
>> serve as representatives of their respective community
>> organization(s). The participants must commit to focusing on
>> successfully developing a framework for closed generics, even if
>> the end product is inconsistent with the goals or priorities of
>> the participant or the participant's SO/AC/SG/C.” (Council small
>> team report)
>>
>> Looking forward to hearing from you, and wishing you all safe travels
>> to KL.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Philippe
>>
>> Board/GNSO correspondence:
>>
>> * 6 Mar 2022 Letter from Maarten Botterman to Manal Ismail and
>> Philippe Fouquart
>> <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/botterman-to-ismail-fouquart-06mar22-en.pdf> –
>> including the framing paper
>> * 27 April 2022 Letter from Philippe Fouquart to Maarten Botterman
>> <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/fouquart-to-botterman-27apr22-en.pdf>
>> * 19 May 2022 Letter from Maarten Botterman to Philippe Fouquart
>> <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/botterman-to-fouquart-19may22-en.pdf>
>> * 29 Jun 2022 Letter from Philippe Fouquart to Maarten Botterman
>> and Manal Ismail
>> <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/fouquart-to-botterman-ismail-29jun22-en.pdf>
>> * 25 Jul 2022 Letter from Maarten Botterman to Philippe Fouquart
>> and Manal Ismail
>> <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/botterman-to-fouquart-ismail-25jul22-en.pdf>
>>
>> Council small team report:
>> https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/policy/2022/draft/draft-closed-generics-small-team-report-24jun22-en.pdf
>>
>>
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