[NCSG-PC] [NCSG EPDP] draft comments on the EPDP final report
Stephanie E Perrin
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Tue Mar 30 17:35:27 EEST 2021
Fine be me.
cheers Stephanie
On 2021-03-30 5:33 a.m., Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:
> *EXTERNAL EMAIL:*
> Thank you again everyone for the comments, edits and discussion. It is
> 20:00 on 30th April now my time. So I have to either submit it before
> I go to bed or first thing in the morning. However, if there are no
> more comments to the draft, I'll prefer submitting it before I go to bed.
>
> Cheers,
> Tomslin
>
> On Tue., 30 Mar. 2021, 10:46 Stephanie E Perrin,
> <stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca
> <mailto:stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca>> wrote:
>
> Ok I have added bits as requested....I did not accept your
> rejection of
> the premise that the accreditation body cost estimate may be low.
> This
> is not based on my opinions alone, it is is based on all the work
> done
> in private by the EWG....we looked at the possible options for
> accreditation of entities, and it was considered by all to be a
> nightmare and potentially expensive. I also worked on this,
> including
> with respect to cross border data sharing in my capacity of DG Risk
> Management when I was at Service Canada....managing credentials for
> users of a global system is extremely expensive. I used the term
> "may"
> so we are not making a fact assertion, but I will be stunned if
> they can
> do this for that kind of budget. Remember that permitting the wrong
> users eg criminals into the system would be the cause of a major data
> breach, which comes with big $$$ penalties. If there are no further
> comments I will go in , accept your additions, and turn it over to
> Tomslin to submit. (what day is it for you Tomslin? ) we have
> approx
> 24 hours to the deadline.
>
> cheers and thanks for the comments Milton! I don't necessarily agree
> with totally downpedalling the cost issues but am willing to
> compromise
> on it, we have signalled strongly that this is a new payer and you
> left
> that in.
>
> Steph
>
> On 2021-03-29 2:25 p.m., Mueller, Milton L wrote:
> > Stephanie:
> > Really appreciate the work involved in the first draft.
> > I am commenting on the doc and I want to alert everyone in NCSG
> that I think it is a major strategic error for our comments to
> reinforce the IPC/BC's attacks on the financial viability of the
> SSAD. The SSAD is viable if the users (e.g., Facebook,
> Markmonitor, etc) pay for it. When the surveillance caucus says it
> is too costly they are just angling for free access and our having
> registrars and registrants pay for it. When you reinforce the
> false argument that this will be too expensive, you are advancing
> their agenda. Not deliberately, of course, but you seem to be
> unaware of how your argument shoots us in the foot.
> >
> > During the negotiations over the SSAD, NCSG's position was that
> users pay for their own accreditation costs, and that usage of the
> system should be tiered to differentiate between light and heavy
> users. Also, the existence of an SSAD helps us argue for keeping
> the private data redacted.
> >
> > So I have suggested various changes and deletions in the
> comments to reflect this perspective.
> >
> > --MM
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: EPDP <epdp-bounces at lists.ncsg.is
> <mailto:epdp-bounces at lists.ncsg.is>> On Behalf Of Stephanie E Perrin
> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 4:20 PM
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> > Subject: [NCSG EPDP] draft comments on the EPDP final report
> >
> > Here is the link to the draft comment
> >
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> > Please let me know if you have trouble editing
> >
> > cheers Stephanie Perrin
> >
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