[NCSG-PC] New meeting request: NCSG/CPH Engagement on DNS Abuse
Juan Manuel Rojas
jumaropi at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 30 03:45:45 EEST 2021
Thanks both,
I agree with Tomslin proposal. I think we should move forward in order
to advance in our Task-Force to have at least a common definition about
what is DNS abuse for us. Maybe yourself as PC Chair, can lead us doing
that or maybe anyone who want to step-in to lead this effort.
I think all PC members should be part of this discussion.
Best Regards,
Juan
El 29/06/21 a las 4:14 p. m., Tomslin Samme-Nlar escribió:
> Thanks Bruna.
>
> I think we should meet them sometime. However, it seems this meeting
> being organised now will be a one-way update from them to us and we
> might not have the input they seek in the meeting since the actions we
> promised to do before we meet again, being (1) mapping other positions
> and working definitions of DNS abuse across the ICANN community; (2)
> start drafting a position paper: NCSGs DNS abuse working definition,
> concerns and process, have not been actioned yet. So we'll be going to
> the meeting, not having progressed from the place we were at the
> previous meeting. It doesn't sound like a very productive use of our
> limited time, especially if folks are required to wake up in the
> middle of the night.
>
> I suggest we make some progress on our side before we meet them again.
> To do this, I suggest we appoint a chair to the NCSG DNS Abuse
> Task-Force, so that we have someone responsible in driving progress on
> the two tasks above. If we are lucky, we might be able to have a
> position in a month and then meet with CPH.
>
> Let me know what you think.
>
> Cheers,
> Tomslin
> @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/
> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/>
>
>
> On Tue, 29 Jun 2021 at 00:38, Bruna Martins dos Santos
> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Heya,
>
> Hope everyone is well! Keith and the CPH sent me an email a while
> ago inquiring about a second meeting about DNS abuse. We still
> have four available dates from the initially suggested ones: 6
> July, 13 July, 20 July or 27 July and the meeting would be
> scheduled at 1500 UTC.
>
> I am writing, therefore, to know from you whether we would be
> interested in going back to our interactions with their DNS abuse
> group. Can you please reply to this email by Thursday, cob ?
>
> ps. RrSG also issued a white paper about DNS abuse and registrant
> protections that I'm adding to this email just so you can take a
> look.
>
> best,
> Bruna
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *Drazek, Keith* <kdrazek at verisign.com
> <mailto:kdrazek at verisign.com>>
> Date: Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 12:46 PM
> Subject: RE: NCSG/CPH Engagement on DNS Abuse
> To: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>>
> Cc: Brian F. Cimbolic (BCimbolic at pir.org
> <mailto:BCimbolic at pir.org>) <BCimbolic at pir.org
> <mailto:BCimbolic at pir.org>>, Jim Galvin (jgalvin at afilias.info
> <mailto:jgalvin at afilias.info>) <jgalvin at afilias.info
> <mailto:jgalvin at afilias.info>>, lseufer at namespace.com
> <mailto:lseufer at namespace.com> <lseufer at namespace.com
> <mailto:lseufer at namespace.com>>, rlevy at tucows.com
> <mailto:rlevy at tucows.com> <rlevy at tucows.com
> <mailto:rlevy at tucows.com>>, secretariat at rysg.info
> <mailto:secretariat at rysg.info> <secretariat at rysg.info
> <mailto:secretariat at rysg.info>>, secretariat at icannregistrars.org
> <mailto:secretariat at icannregistrars.org>
> <secretariat at icannregistrars.org
> <mailto:secretariat at icannregistrars.org>>
>
>
> Hi Bruna,
>
> I hope you’re doing well as we approach ICANN 71!
>
> I'm checking in with you to schedule our follow-up joint CPH/NCSG
> conversation on DNS Abuse. The CPH is looking to schedule these
> sessions on Tuesdays at 1500 UTC, during our regularly-scheduled
> joint CPH DNS Abuse meeting time slot, ideally starting in late June.
>
> I've tentatively penciled NCSG in for Tuesday, July 27 but we can
> adjust as needed...just let me know.
>
> Here are the possible dates over the next six weeks, at 1500 UTC.
> If none of these dates/times work, let me know and we can try to
> find an alternate slot.
>
> 22 June
>
> 29 June
>
> 6 July
>
> 13 July
>
> 20 July
>
> 27 July
>
> Thanks and we look forward to our continued dialogue!
>
> Best,
> Keith
>
> *From:* Drazek, Keith
> *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2021 11:44 AM
> *To:* bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Brian F. Cimbolic <BCimbolic at pir.org
> <mailto:BCimbolic at pir.org>>; Jim Galvin <jgalvin at afilias.info
> <mailto:jgalvin at afilias.info>>; Graeme Bunton <gbunton at tucows.com
> <mailto:gbunton at tucows.com>>
> *Subject:* Engagement on DNS Abuse
>
> Hello Bruna,
>
> I hope you’re doing well and staying healthy and safe. I am
> reaching out to you on behalf of the Contracted Party House DNS
> Abuse Working Group as we look ahead to ICANN 70 and the rest of 2021.
>
> The Contracted Party House (CPH) DNS Abuse Group is conducting
> outreach to our friends in other SO/AC/SG/Cs regarding DNS Abuse.
> As previously noted by the CPH, DNS Abuse
> <https://rrsg.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/CPH-Definition-of-DNS-Abuse.pdf>
> comprises five categories: phishing, pharming, malware, botnets,
> and spam when it acts as a delivery mechanism for one of the other
> forms of DNS Abuse.
>
> We want to open a more direct dialogue to understand pain points,
> hear suggestions and identify common ground where we can work
> together to mitigate DNS Abuse. Is there a subset of the NCSG
> focusing on DNS Abuse questions that would be able to join the CPH
> DNS Abuse group on a call to discuss this topic? We want to
> encourage frank and productive discussions on the topic that lead
> to really informing our dialogues and actions.
>
> As a starting point, we propose the following questions to guide
> our discussion. Are there any questions NCSG would like discuss?:
>
> What information do you use and how do you use it to assess DNS
> Abuse levels?
>
> What are the NCSG’s pain points regarding DNS Abuse?
>
> Are you seeing practices from registrars or registries you find
> helpful?
>
> Please let us know if a subgroup of the NCSG would be willing to
> join us. Our group meets regularly on Tuesdays at 1500 UTC. If
> so, please propose a Tuesday when you are available.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Keith
>
> Keith Drazek
>
> Vice President, Public Policy & Government Relations
>
> Verisign, Inc.
>
> +1-571-377-9182
>
> Kdrazek at verisign.com <mailto:Kdrazek at verisign.com>
>
>
>
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> /*
>
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>
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JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
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