[NCSG-PC] Fwd: [council] Update: Optional Meeting with GAC on IGO CRP

Tue Jun 25 17:01:53 EEST 2019

This GAC situation has been very frustrating and I’ve been extremely vocal
already about it in several of our meetings. Can we make a decision about
our stance on this ASAP? What do we think is best for this WG? Maybe we
should consult with our members too about the situation?

I know we’ve talked about it on several of our policy calls, and we’ve
already discussed this several times, but we haven’t made a decision on a
pathway forward. Any thoughts?

Best,

Elsa
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On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 9:48 AM Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am sure this will not be new for Council members but here is what
> was pushed by the Council and was able to get from this small meeting:
>
> -       Recommendations 1-4 are in Board hands and no one knows what will
> be
> the outcome or their decision: it is either rejection (sent back to
> Council) or adoption and then it becomes a consensus policy. We should
> not focus on this now.
>
> -       GAC seems to not be happy with what has been done so far (Rec #1 to
> #4) and I think they would give everything they can to have a say on
> these or even see the Board bring them back to Council for discussion.
>
> -       Agreed on chartering a new group to work on Rec #5, under the
> umbrella of RPMs WG, but with its full autonomy.
>
> -       With the experience of the EPDP in terms of WG composition,
> timeline
> as well as the flexibility and liability that comes with the PDP 3.0,
> GNSO Council should be able to lead this work.
>
> -       This new group should be formed of people with the right expertise
> and interest in the topic. Should be limited in number and be
> time-bound to deliver in a timely fashion. NCSG should start thinking
> about who we will send there.
>
> -       Start a small group to keep on discussing: formed with GAC members,
> interested IGOs and Council members, including Paul who is Council
> liaison to RPMs WG. When this is formed, NCSG needs to be there as
> well.
>
> This is purely procedural, I cannot report on the substance of the
> work done and what needs to be done since I am not following this WG
> closely.
>
> @Avri was in the room (from the Board side), maybe you can say something?
>
> Thanks,
> Arsene
>
>
> 2019-06-24 12:19 UTC+02:00, Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>:
> > Hi Rafik,
> >
> > I hate that I did not follow closely this discussion but since we need
> > someone to be there, I am planning to join and will let you know
> > anything I get from that informal meeting.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Arsene
> >
> > 2019-06-24 10:37 UTC+02:00, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> as I mentioned before I won't be able to attend that session as I will
> be
> >> chairing EPDP sessions.
> >> can someone volunteer who won't be at EPDP or another PDP session to
> >> attend
> >> and take notes. while it is about informal discussion, we need to note
> >> what
> >> was discussed and suggested there.
> >> the latest letter from the board is not bad with regard about following
> >> process by having the public comment for input and not initiating any
> >> facilitated dialogue yet.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Rafik
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> >> De : Drazek, Keith via council <council at gnso.icann.org>
> >> Date: lun. 24 juin 2019 à 08:50
> >> Subject: [council] Update: Optional Meeting with GAC on IGO CRP
> >> To: council at gnso.icann.org <council at gnso.icann.org>
> >> Cc: gnso-secs at icann.org <gnso-secs at icann.org>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> This is a quick update on Tuesday’s 13:30 meeting between interested
> >> members of the GNSO Council and GAC on the IGO CRP topic. Thanks to
> those
> >> of you who have volunteered to attend and contribute to this optional
> >> session.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> As you’ve seen, the ICANN Board sent a letter to both groups indicating
> >> they will soon be posting Recommendations 1-4 for public comment. In the
> >> meantime, the Council will continue to explore next steps for
> >> re-chartering
> >> the RPM PDP WG to include a dedicated sub-group to consider
> >> Recommendation
> >> 5 and the IGO protections issue.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> As part of this effort, as scheduled, we will meet with interested
> >> parties
> >> from the GAC on Tuesday. I spoke with Manal yesterday and we agreed that
> >> the session would be most productive if it was informal and focused on
> >> how
> >> best to ensure the dedicated sub-team is scoped appropriately. Anyone is
> >> welcome to attend and observe this session, but we do not plan to record
> >> it
> >> and hope an informal dialogue at this time will help to inform our work.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Please let me know if you have any questions or if you’d like to
> >> participate as a contributor to the discussion. We will of course report
> >> out on the conversation.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Keith
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> **Arsène Tungali* <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>*
> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
> <http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <https://www.smart-kitoko.com/>*,
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> GPG: 523644A0
>
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>
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> >
>
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Elsa Saade
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Gulf Centre for Human Rights
Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
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