<div><div dir="auto">This GAC situation has been very frustrating and I’ve been extremely vocal already about it in several of our meetings. Can we make a decision about our stance on this ASAP? What do we think is best for this WG? Maybe we should consult with our members too about the situation?</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I know we’ve talked about it on several of our policy calls, and we’ve already discussed this several times, but we haven’t made a decision on a pathway forward. Any thoughts?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Elsa</div><div dir="auto">—</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 9:48 AM Arsène Tungali <<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<br>
<br>
I am sure this will not be new for Council members but here is what<br>
was pushed by the Council and was able to get from this small meeting:<br>
<br>
- Recommendations 1-4 are in Board hands and no one knows what will be<br>
the outcome or their decision: it is either rejection (sent back to<br>
Council) or adoption and then it becomes a consensus policy. We should<br>
not focus on this now.<br>
<br>
- GAC seems to not be happy with what has been done so far (Rec #1 to<br>
#4) and I think they would give everything they can to have a say on<br>
these or even see the Board bring them back to Council for discussion.<br>
<br>
- Agreed on chartering a new group to work on Rec #5, under the<br>
umbrella of RPMs WG, but with its full autonomy.<br>
<br>
- With the experience of the EPDP in terms of WG composition, timeline<br>
as well as the flexibility and liability that comes with the PDP 3.0,<br>
GNSO Council should be able to lead this work.<br>
<br>
- This new group should be formed of people with the right expertise<br>
and interest in the topic. Should be limited in number and be<br>
time-bound to deliver in a timely fashion. NCSG should start thinking<br>
about who we will send there.<br>
<br>
- Start a small group to keep on discussing: formed with GAC members,<br>
interested IGOs and Council members, including Paul who is Council<br>
liaison to RPMs WG. When this is formed, NCSG needs to be there as<br>
well.<br>
<br>
This is purely procedural, I cannot report on the substance of the<br>
work done and what needs to be done since I am not following this WG<br>
closely.<br>
<br>
@Avri was in the room (from the Board side), maybe you can say something?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Arsene<br>
<br>
<br>
2019-06-24 12:19 UTC+02:00, Arsène Tungali <<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" target="_blank">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
> Hi Rafik,<br>
><br>
> I hate that I did not follow closely this discussion but since we need<br>
> someone to be there, I am planning to join and will let you know<br>
> anything I get from that informal meeting.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Arsene<br>
><br>
> 2019-06-24 10:37 UTC+02:00, Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>> Hi all,<br>
>><br>
>> as I mentioned before I won't be able to attend that session as I will be<br>
>> chairing EPDP sessions.<br>
>> can someone volunteer who won't be at EPDP or another PDP session to<br>
>> attend<br>
>> and take notes. while it is about informal discussion, we need to note<br>
>> what<br>
>> was discussed and suggested there.<br>
>> the latest letter from the board is not bad with regard about following<br>
>> process by having the public comment for input and not initiating any<br>
>> facilitated dialogue yet.<br>
>><br>
>> Best,<br>
>><br>
>> Rafik<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>
>> De : Drazek, Keith via council <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
>> Date: lun. 24 juin 2019 à 08:50<br>
>> Subject: [council] Update: Optional Meeting with GAC on IGO CRP<br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a> <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
>> Cc: <a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a> <<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Hi all,<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> This is a quick update on Tuesday’s 13:30 meeting between interested<br>
>> members of the GNSO Council and GAC on the IGO CRP topic. Thanks to those<br>
>> of you who have volunteered to attend and contribute to this optional<br>
>> session.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> As you’ve seen, the ICANN Board sent a letter to both groups indicating<br>
>> they will soon be posting Recommendations 1-4 for public comment. In the<br>
>> meantime, the Council will continue to explore next steps for<br>
>> re-chartering<br>
>> the RPM PDP WG to include a dedicated sub-group to consider<br>
>> Recommendation<br>
>> 5 and the IGO protections issue.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> As part of this effort, as scheduled, we will meet with interested<br>
>> parties<br>
>> from the GAC on Tuesday. I spoke with Manal yesterday and we agreed that<br>
>> the session would be most productive if it was informal and focused on<br>
>> how<br>
>> best to ensure the dedicated sub-team is scoped appropriately. Anyone is<br>
>> welcome to attend and observe this session, but we do not plan to record<br>
>> it<br>
>> and hope an informal dialogue at this time will help to inform our work.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Please let me know if you have any questions or if you’d like to<br>
>> participate as a contributor to the discussion. We will of course report<br>
>> out on the conversation.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>><br>
>> Keith<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
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</blockquote></div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">--<br><br>Elsa Saade<br>Consultant</div></div><div>Gulf Centre for Human Rights</div><div>Twitter: @Elsa_Saade</div></div></div></div></div>