[NCSG-PC] [NCSG-Discuss] Draft Input to the Initial Report SubPro

[Martin Pablo Silva Valent]

Given the deadline, I give my support to move it forward.

Best,
Martin

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 02:52 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

> hi all,
>
> I worked on this clean version (there are still some comments)
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SxCa4cn-NEiS_tea-jUP02DSG6IEzf_O4_MBPLUtxZs/edit
> the contentions parts were removed and to be discussed later/
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
> Le mar. 25 sept. 2018 à 00:41, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> Thanks all for the comment
>> the deadline for submission s the 26th Sept and not clear we can get some
>> extension. I am still checking on that front.
>> as the topic is contentious, one way is to take it out from the draft and
>> comment separately having a proper discussion within NCSG, that is not a
>> perfect option but at least to ensure that we cover the other areas of the
>> public comment where there is no disagreement.
>> the comment still needs to be tidied up and finalized.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>> Le lun. 24 sept. 2018 à 12:44, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> A lot of good work has gone into this comment, so thank you to those
>>> involved in drafting it. However I think it is not yet ready for
>>> submission. In the comments there have been some serious issues raised
>>> which I think need a response. I agree that there should be consistency in
>>> our comments, so if the position being taken today is different to the
>>> position that the NCSG has taken in the past, we need to talk about what
>>> has changed and why.
>>>
>>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>>
>>> On 23 Sep 2018, at 17:34, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at GMAIL.COM>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I had a look at the document. I abstain from approving it and here are
>>> my reasons:
>>>
>>> While I believe in free market, innovation and everything else that
>>> Robin and others claim should be in registries business model and they
>>> think closed registries can bring that about and I believe that top level
>>> domain names are property after allocation, I think having closed generics
>>> and restricted brand registries by default can lead to the politicization
>>> of the domain space even further. I don't even agree with having criteria
>>> set by ICANN for community TLDs.  I believe it might have made sense to
>>> support closed generics then, but the result is clear. We now have a much
>>> stronger GAC to deal with in Geo names, we have public interest related to
>>> each and every topic we discuss. And saying not to conflate trade mark with
>>> closed generic without providing a reason how they are different (I have
>>> read emails, transcripts etc) does not make sense to me.
>>>
>>> I support not allowing closed generics but allowing any other business
>>> model in registries in favor of not politicizing the domain space. It might
>>> be too late. but that is my opinion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Farzaneh
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 11:44 AM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> hi all,
>>>>
>>>> this is a reminder about the subsequent procedures comment review
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le mar. 18 sept. 2018 à 10:23, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
>>>> écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> the draft was shared in NCSG list for review. asking PC members to go
>>>>> through the comment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>> From: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: mar. 18 sept. 2018 à 09:57
>>>>> Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Draft Input to the Initial Report SubPro
>>>>> To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Please find the initial draft of the NCSG Input to the Initial Report
>>>>> on the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Policy Development Process
>>>>> (Overarching Issues & Work Tracks 1-4).
>>>>>
>>>>> Elsa and I are still working on this document
>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SxCa4cn-NEiS_tea-jUP02DSG6IEzf_O4_MBPLUtxZs/edit>
>>>>> so its not yet finalized but considered the importance of the subject and
>>>>> the upcoming deadline for submission (sep 26th) we thought we should this
>>>>> share this with the NCSG list soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> We will be finalizing this comment during the week and your input is
>>>>> very much welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Bruna and Elsa
>>>>>
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