[NCSG-PC] [NCSG-Discuss] Draft Input to the Initial Report SubPro

[Rafik Dammak]

hi all,

I worked on this clean version (there are still some comments)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SxCa4cn-NEiS_tea-jUP02DSG6IEzf_O4_MBPLUtxZs/edit
the contentions parts were removed and to be discussed later/

Best,

Rafik
Le mar. 25 sept. 2018 à 00:41, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
écrit :

> Thanks all for the comment
> the deadline for submission s the 26th Sept and not clear we can get some
> extension. I am still checking on that front.
> as the topic is contentious, one way is to take it out from the draft and
> comment separately having a proper discussion within NCSG, that is not a
> perfect option but at least to ensure that we cover the other areas of the
> public comment where there is no disagreement.
> the comment still needs to be tidied up and finalized.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
> Le lun. 24 sept. 2018 à 12:44, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> A lot of good work has gone into this comment, so thank you to those
>> involved in drafting it. However I think it is not yet ready for
>> submission. In the comments there have been some serious issues raised
>> which I think need a response. I agree that there should be consistency in
>> our comments, so if the position being taken today is different to the
>> position that the NCSG has taken in the past, we need to talk about what
>> has changed and why.
>>
>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>
>> On 23 Sep 2018, at 17:34, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at GMAIL.COM>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I had a look at the document. I abstain from approving it and here are my
>> reasons:
>>
>> While I believe in free market, innovation and everything else that Robin
>> and others claim should be in registries business model and they think
>> closed registries can bring that about and I believe that top level domain
>> names are property after allocation, I think having closed generics and
>> restricted brand registries by default can lead to the politicization of
>> the domain space even further. I don't even agree with having criteria set
>> by ICANN for community TLDs.  I believe it might have made sense to support
>> closed generics then, but the result is clear. We now have a much stronger
>> GAC to deal with in Geo names, we have public interest related to each and
>> every topic we discuss. And saying not to conflate trade mark with closed
>> generic without providing a reason how they are different (I have read
>> emails, transcripts etc) does not make sense to me.
>>
>> I support not allowing closed generics but allowing any other business
>> model in registries in favor of not politicizing the domain space. It might
>> be too late. but that is my opinion.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 11:44 AM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> hi all,
>>>
>>> this is a reminder about the subsequent procedures comment review
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>>
>>> Le mar. 18 sept. 2018 à 10:23, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>>> hi all,
>>>>
>>>> the draft was shared in NCSG list for review. asking PC members to go
>>>> through the comment.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>> From: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: mar. 18 sept. 2018 à 09:57
>>>> Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Draft Input to the Initial Report SubPro
>>>> To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Please find the initial draft of the NCSG Input to the Initial Report
>>>> on the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Policy Development Process
>>>> (Overarching Issues & Work Tracks 1-4).
>>>>
>>>> Elsa and I are still working on this document
>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SxCa4cn-NEiS_tea-jUP02DSG6IEzf_O4_MBPLUtxZs/edit>
>>>> so its not yet finalized but considered the importance of the subject and
>>>> the upcoming deadline for submission (sep 26th) we thought we should this
>>>> share this with the NCSG list soon.
>>>>
>>>> We will be finalizing this comment during the week and your input is
>>>> very much welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Bruna and Elsa
>>>>
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