<div dir="auto">Given the deadline, I give my support to move it forward.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best,</div><div dir="auto">Martin</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 02:52 Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">hi all,<div><br></div><div>I worked on this clean version (there are still some comments) <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SxCa4cn-NEiS_tea-jUP02DSG6IEzf_O4_MBPLUtxZs/edit" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SxCa4cn-NEiS_tea-jUP02DSG6IEzf_O4_MBPLUtxZs/edit</a></div><div>the contentions parts were removed and to be discussed later/</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Rafik<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Le mar. 25 sept. 2018 à 00:41, Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr" class="m_-8129377500612747777gmail-m_5058770145699804690gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks all for the comment</div><div>the deadline for submission s the 26th Sept and not clear we can get some extension. I am still checking on that front.</div><div>as the topic is contentious, one way is to take it out from the draft and comment separately having a proper discussion within NCSG, that is not a perfect option but at least to ensure that we cover the other areas of the public comment where there is no disagreement.</div><div>the comment still needs to be tidied up and finalized.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Rafik</div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Le lun. 24 sept. 2018 à 12:44, Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">icann@ferdeline.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>A lot of good work has gone into this comment, so thank you to those involved in drafting it. However I think it is not yet ready for submission. In the comments there have been some serious issues raised which I think need a response. I agree that there should be consistency in our comments, so if the position being taken today is different to the position that the NCSG has taken in the past, we need to talk about what has changed and why.<div><br></div><div>Best wishes, Ayden<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 23 Sep 2018, at 17:34, farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">farzaneh.badii@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-8129377500612747777gmail-m_5058770145699804690m_1349348026716826994Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I had a look at the document. I abstain from approving it and here are my reasons:</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">While I believe in free market, innovation and everything else that Robin and others claim should be in registries business model and they think closed registries can bring that about and I believe that top level domain names are property after allocation, I think having closed generics and restricted brand registries by default can lead to the politicization of the domain space even further. I don't even agree with having criteria set by ICANN for community TLDs. I believe it might have made sense to support closed generics then, but the result is clear. We now have a much stronger GAC to deal with in Geo names, we have public interest related to each and every topic we discuss. And saying not to conflate trade mark with closed generic without providing a reason how they are different (I have read emails, transcripts etc) does not make sense to me. </div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I support not allowing closed generics but allowing any other business model in registries in favor of not politicizing the domain space. It might be too late. but that is my opinion.</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="m_-8129377500612747777gmail-m_5058770145699804690m_1349348026716826994gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 11:44 AM Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">hi all,<div><br></div><div>this is a reminder about the subsequent procedures comment review</div><div><br></div><div>Best Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Rafik<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Le mar. 18 sept. 2018 à 10:23, Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr" class="m_-8129377500612747777gmail-m_5058770145699804690m_1349348026716826994m_1716950001741759105m_-868322283757347154gmail_signature"><div>hi all,</div><div><br></div><div>the draft was shared in NCSG list for review. asking PC members to go through the comment.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Rafik</div></div></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <strong class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Bruna Martins dos Santos</strong> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>></span><br>Date: mar. 18 sept. 2018 à 09:57<br>Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Draft Input to the Initial Report SubPro<br>To: <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu</a>><br></div><br><br><div dir="ltr">Dear all, <div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Please find the initial draft of the NCSG Input to the <span style="text-align:center;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Initial Report on the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Policy Development Process (Overarching Issues & Work Tracks 1-4). </span></font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="text-align:center;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="text-align:center;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Elsa and I are still working on <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SxCa4cn-NEiS_tea-jUP02DSG6IEzf_O4_MBPLUtxZs/edit" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">this document</a> so its not yet finalized but considered the importance of the subject and the upcoming deadline for submission (sep 26th) we thought we should this share this with the NCSG list soon. </span></font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="text-align:center;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="text-align:center;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">We will be finalizing this comment during the week and your input is very much welcome. </span></font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="text-align:center;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="text-align:center;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Best, </span></font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="text-align:center;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Bruna and Elsa </span></font></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="m_-8129377500612747777gmail-m_5058770145699804690m_1349348026716826994m_1716950001741759105m_-868322283757347154m_1594614313306844448gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
</div></div>
</blockquote></div></div></div>
_______________________________________________<br>
NCSG-PC mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc</a><br>
</blockquote></div>
</div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div></div>
</blockquote></div></div></div></div></div>
_______________________________________________<br>
NCSG-PC mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc</a><br>
</blockquote></div>