[NCSG-PC] [NCSG-FC] Fwd: [council] FY20 Supporting Organization & Advisory Committee (SO/AC) ABR Kickoff

Sun Nov 18 11:53:35 EET 2018

Hi all,

Apologies for the delay in my response to this message.

I would suggest that we not pin our hopes on ABRs for travel being successful this year. Given the operational efficiencies the organisation is trying to generate (largely at community expense), it seems unlikely to me that any travel requests would be approved. Historically we did receive travel support for the Global IGF, and once for INTA, but I'm not aware of any other occassions with a travel component where it was subsequently granted.

I think we also need to remember what our remit is, as the NCSG PC (and FC), and what remains the responsibility of the Constituencies. Both the NCUC and NPOC can and should independently submit ABRs; we should only be doing so as the NCSG where our interest in doing so is distinct from that of the Constituencies.

I would suggest submitting an ABR for funding for a server or managed hosting provider for the NCSG, so that we have our own 'space' to backup the Constituency mailing lists and our own files, and for funding to renew all of our own domain names for 10 years (contingency planning). I note that our current domain name expires in May 2019.

I am broadly in agreement with Thato that there is value in submitting an ABR for a capacity building initiative too.

However I do not think, at this time, that there is a need for the NCSG FC to be holding community meetings at face-to-face ICANN meetings.

Many thanks,

Ayden

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On Wednesday, 14 November 2018 06:50, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Stephanie and all,
>
> Apologies for the delayed response, just provide some comments regarding FY20 ABRs:
>
> 1. ABR have historically been used for travel to meetings, and during FY18 there was a shift towards capacity building, outreach and communication support, 14 requests were declined in FY18.
>
> In FY19 the approved ABR we currently running on is centered around travel, communication and capacity building,6 requests were declined.
>
> All this changes were necessitated by budget cuts but it seems like in FY20 the ABR will some how improve according to the ICANN finance during ICANN 63 during their FY20 planning meeting, so based on positive community responses from the capacity building approach, I would recommend that we still maintain capacity building, improving on communication while trying to support active and committee members engage more in PDPs and ICANN meetings. We need to find other ways of supporting members to represent and participate.
>
> 2. Secondly, we need to understand what the priorities and current projects that are running and how they can be supported through this ABR process from constituencies, committees, working groups and the Stakeholder Group itself.
>
> 3. It would be good to get proposals from the community before  the official submission
>
> 4. I hope starting with ICANN 64, the Finance Committee will be able to hold sessions during ICANN meetings with the community, not knowing what impact this might have on the current ABR and future ABR submissions..
>
> 5. We are happy to help with this process
>
> 5. Please checkout the [FC Wiki space](https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Finance+Committee#Information--640009899) for 2018 and 2019 ABR analysis, hope this helps, thanks.
>
> Thato Mfikwe.
>
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 3:01 AM Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>
>> Right, our thinking is aligned here! Copying the finance committee so that they can chime in.
>>
>> On 2018-11-12 19:56, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Stephanie,
>>>
>>> to be clear :) I am not asking you as chair to do the whole work but instead that NCSG FC  to coordinate such effort and takes the lead here.
>>> I  also suggested that ABRs proposals should come from NCSG members and committees with enough details as an input and then they can be discussed if they should be submitted or not depending if they are aligned with NCSG goals. NCSG PC may help in term of input or proposals (while I don't have a specific idea here)
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> Le mar. 13 nov. 2018 à 09:52, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Thanks Rafik!  I am certainly happy to coordinate and even draft the ABRs, but I think from a policy perspective it is worth having a think about them  We certainly have enough time to consider what we might want to ask for.
>>>>
>>>> cheers Stephanie
>>>>
>>>> On 2018-11-12 16:37, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Stephanie,
>>>>>
>>>>> usually, it was the chair doing the coordination work and getting the requests done. There were attempts to get feedback and suggestion from members but the bulk of the work to populate the forms etc was still done by the chair.
>>>>> Now, we have an active Finance Committee and it should play such role for coordination, collecting suggestions and ideas from members and committees with NCSG chair lead.
>>>>> I think the approved ABRs for this year were already listed in NCSG wiki space https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Approved+ABRs. I think the evaluation will happen de facto when it will be decided to submit again the same request or not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>> Le mar. 13 nov. 2018 à 01:44, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi folks, any suggestions as to how best to coordinate this year's effort including evaluations of successes and failures from past efforts would be welcome.  I recommend we make it an item on the next Policy committee meeting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steph
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>>>> Subject:	[council] FY20 Supporting Organization & Advisory Committee (SO/AC) ABR Kickoff
>>>>>> Date:	Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:07:18 +0000
>>>>>> From:	Nathalie Peregrine [<nathalie.peregrine at icann.org>](mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To:	council at gnso.icann.org [<council at gnso.icann.org>](mailto:council at gnso.icann.org)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CC:	gnso-secs at icann.org [<gnso-secs at icann.org>](mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear ICANN Community Member,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ICANN’s Planning Team would like to notify you that the FY20 Supporting Organization and Advisory Committee (SO/AC) Additional Budget Request process has begun. This additional budget approval process is part of the overall ICANN annual budgeting process that is for the review of specific requests from the community that are not already included in the budget but serve to further the key objectives of the requesting community group. Your active participation and adherence to procedural guidelines is greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Information concerning the FY20 SO/AC additional request process, timeline, and additional budget request template can be found on the [Finance Community Wiki](https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=96213580).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please email any questions that you may have to planning at icann.org.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We look forward to your continued engagement on the SO/AC Additional Budget Request Process for FY20.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Angela Hillman
>>>>>> ICANN| Sr. Financial Analyst III
>>>>>> 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 |Los Angeles |California | 90094-2536 |US
>>>>>> 310.578.8917  voice | 310.823.8649 fax | Angela.Hillman at icann.org
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>>>>>> ICANN|  Sr. Financial Analyst III
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