[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: [soac-chairs] ccNSO Council resolves not to participate in RDS/WHOIS2
Stephanie Perrin
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Fri Mar 23 18:09:38 EET 2018
Indeed I am. And I can testify that progress is slow, having just got
off call number 23 this morning.
Here is a slide deck that shows where we are.
On 2018-03-23 09:29, Arsène Tungali wrote:
> I thought Stephanie was part of the RDS RT?
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> 2018-03-23 0:18 GMT+02:00 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>:
>
> Hi Stephanie,
>
> Maybe we should know better about the cureent status and progress
> of the review team?did it work on term of references and scoping
> yet or not?
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 7:02 AM Stephanie Perrin
> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>
> fair points.
>
> Any ideas on how to proceed?
>
> SP
>
> On 2018-03-22 17:22, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>> Hi ,
>>
>>
>> I would be more cautious here, contracted trying to be too
>> tactical but there may be unintended consequences. We heard
>> Goran many times last talking about proposing changes to
>> reviews but we have no idea about specifics. Pausing may just
>> lead somehow to less serious and small in scope reviews in
>> future with whatever ICANN wants to propose.
>> Pausing without clear conditions for restart will be another
>> SSR2 drama and playing into narrative that community cannot
>> manage those processes.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 6:10 AM Stephanie Perrin
>> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
>> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>>
>> Interesting. DO we have a view on this folks? I would
>> not object to putting the RDS review on hold. Far too
>> much to keep track of, notably GDPR and the Privacy proxy
>> services IRT.
>>
>> Steph
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: [soac-chairs]
>> ccNSO Council resolves not to participate in RDS/WHOIS2
>> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:26:35 -0300
>> From: Anthony Harris <harris at cabase.org.ar>
>> <mailto:harris at cabase.org.ar>
>> To: 'PAMELA LITTLE' <pam.little at alibaba-inc.com>
>> <mailto:pam.little at alibaba-inc.com>, 'Heather Forrest'
>> <haforrestesq at gmail.com> <mailto:haforrestesq at gmail.com>,
>> 'GNSO Council List' <council at gnso.icann.org>
>> <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>, 'Austin, Donna'
>> <Donna.Austin at team.neustar>
>> <mailto:Donna.Austin at team.neustar>
>>
>>
>>
>> I support Pam’s suggestion.
>>
>> Tony Harris
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>> *De:*council [mailto:council-bounces at gnso.icann.org
>> <mailto:council-bounces at gnso.icann.org>] *En nombre de
>> *PAMELA LITTLE
>> *Enviado el:* miércoles, 21 de marzo de 2018 0:55
>> *Para:* Heather Forrest; GNSO Council List; Austin, Donna
>> *Asunto:* Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: [soac-chairs]
>> ccNSO Council resolves not to participate in RDS/WHOIS2
>>
>> In addition to bandwidth issue//and in light of//the
>> discussions around ICANN budget and GDPR at ICANN61,
>> perhaps the community should consider a deferral/pause of
>> this review.
>>
>> Also, see below excerpt of Goran's latest blog
>> https://www.icann.org/news/blog/budget-discussions-at-icann61
>> <https://www.icann.org/news/blog/budget-discussions-at-icann61>:
>>
>> "...and for the RDS Review, there is still significant
>> work remaining to address the impacts of the General Data
>> Protection Regulation (GDPR) on the WHOIS system.
>> Delaying either of these reviews would save many hours of
>> volunteer time. Additionally, and more broadly,
>> addressing the timing of reviews, and approach, will
>> contribute to discussing how to make future reviews more
>> efficient and more relevant. Deferring a review that will
>> be impacted by current Policy Development Processes or
>> other outside factors, could have significant savings on
>> productivity and cost."
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Pam
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Sender:Austin, Donna via council
>> <council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>>
>>
>> Sent at:2018 Mar 21 (Wed) 07:34
>>
>> To:Heather Forrest <haforrestesq at gmail.com
>> <mailto:haforrestesq at gmail.com>>; GNSO Council List
>> <council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>>
>>
>> Subject:Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: [soac-chairs]
>> ccNSO Council resolves not to participate in RDS/WHOIS2
>>
>> Heather, Susan
>>
>> Where does this leave the RDS Review Team in terms of
>> adequate membership? I know Susan has raised concerns
>> previously that there isn’t enough people to do the
>> work.
>>
>> Is it possible for the GNSO to recommend additional
>> candidates to fill the vacancies left by the ccNSO’s
>> decision not to appoint volunteers?
>>
>> Donna
>>
>> *From:*council [mailto:council-bounces at gnso.icann.org
>> <mailto:council-bounces at gnso.icann.org>] *On Behalf
>> Of *Heather Forrest
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:51 AM
>> *To:* GNSO Council List <council at gnso.icann.org
>> <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>>
>> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] [council] Fwd: [soac-chairs]
>> ccNSO Council resolves not to participate in RDS/WHOIS2
>>
>> Dear Council colleagues,
>>
>> Please note the ccNSO's affirmed position on
>> RDS/WHOIS2 RT.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Heather
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: *Katrina Sataki* <katrina at nic.lv
>> <mailto:katrina at nic.lv>>
>> Date: Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:37 PM
>> Subject: [soac-chairs] ccNSO Council resolves not to
>> participate in RDS/WHOIS2
>> To: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
>> <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>>
>> Cc: Goran Marby <goran.marby at icann.org
>> <mailto:goran.marby at icann.org>>, Chris Disspain
>> <chris.disspain at board.icann.org
>> <mailto:chris.disspain at board.icann.org>>,
>> mike.silber at board.icann.org
>> <mailto:mike.silber at board.icann.org>, SOAC Chairs
>> <soac-chairs at icann.org <mailto:soac-chairs at icann.org>>
>>
>> 7 March 2018
>>
>> To: Alan Greenberg, RDS/WHOIS 2 Review Team, Chair
>>
>> CC: Chris Disspain, Mike Silber, Göran Marby, Chairs
>> of ALAC, ASO, GAC, GNSO, SSAC, RSAC
>>
>> Dear Alan,
>>
>> In May 2017, we informed the ICANN Board of Directors
>> that the ccNSO did not find itself in a position to
>> nominate candidates for the RDS/ WHOIS2 Review Team,
>> and deferred participation in this specific review.
>>
>> On 18 January 2018, the ccNSO Council again discussed
>> its participation in the review. Following this
>> discussion, by 16 February 2018, the ccNSO Council
>> decided not to participate in the RDS/WHOIS2 specific
>> review.
>>
>> The ccNSO Council thanks the volunteers who sought
>> endorsement of the ccNSO.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Katrina Sataki,
>>
>> Chair of the ccNSO
>>
>>
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