[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: [soac-chairs] ccNSO Council resolves not to participate in RDS/WHOIS2

Fri Mar 23 15:29:32 EET 2018

I thought Stephanie was part of the RDS RT?

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2018-03-23 0:18 GMT+02:00 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>:

> Hi Stephanie,
>
> Maybe we should know better about the cureent status and progress of the
> review team?did it work on term of references and scoping yet or not?
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 7:02 AM Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.
> utoronto.ca> wrote:
>
>> fair points.
>>
>> Any ideas on how to proceed?
>>
>> SP
>> On 2018-03-22 17:22, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>
>> Hi ,
>>
>>
>> I would be more cautious here, contracted trying to be too tactical but
>> there may be unintended consequences. We heard Goran many times last
>> talking about proposing changes to reviews but we have no idea about
>> specifics. Pausing may just lead somehow to less serious and small in scope
>> reviews in future with whatever ICANN wants to propose.
>> Pausing without clear conditions for restart will be another SSR2 drama
>> and playing into narrative that community cannot manage those processes.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 6:10 AM Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.
>> utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting.  DO we have a view on this folks?  I would not object to
>>> putting the RDS review on hold.  Far too much to keep track of, notably
>>> GDPR and the Privacy proxy services IRT.
>>>
>>> Steph
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: [soac-chairs] ccNSO Council
>>> resolves not to participate in RDS/WHOIS2
>>> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:26:35 -0300
>>> From: Anthony Harris <harris at cabase.org.ar> <harris at cabase.org.ar>
>>> To: 'PAMELA LITTLE' <pam.little at alibaba-inc.com>
>>> <pam.little at alibaba-inc.com>, 'Heather Forrest' <haforrestesq at gmail.com>
>>> <haforrestesq at gmail.com>, 'GNSO Council List' <council at gnso.icann.org>
>>> <council at gnso.icann.org>, 'Austin, Donna' <Donna.Austin at team.neustar>
>>> <Donna.Austin at team.neustar>
>>>
>>> I support Pam’s suggestion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tony Harris
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> *De:* council [mailto:council-bounces at gnso.icann.org
>>> <council-bounces at gnso.icann.org>] *En nombre de *PAMELA LITTLE
>>> *Enviado el:* miércoles, 21 de marzo de 2018 0:55
>>> *Para:* Heather Forrest; GNSO Council List; Austin, Donna
>>> *Asunto:* Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: [soac-chairs] ccNSO Council
>>> resolves not to participate in RDS/WHOIS2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In addition to bandwidth issue and in light of the discussions around
>>> ICANN budget and GDPR at ICANN61, perhaps the community should consider a
>>> deferral/pause of this review.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, see below excerpt of Goran's latest blog https://www.icann.org/
>>> news/blog/budget-discussions-at-icann61:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "...and for the RDS Review, there is still significant work remaining to
>>> address the impacts of the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) on the
>>> WHOIS system. Delaying either of these reviews would save many hours of
>>> volunteer time. Additionally, and more broadly, addressing the timing of
>>> reviews, and approach, will contribute to discussing how to make future
>>> reviews more efficient and more relevant. Deferring a review that will be
>>> impacted by current Policy Development Processes or other outside factors,
>>> could have significant savings on productivity and cost."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Pam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Sender:Austin, Donna via council <council at gnso.icann.org>
>>>
>>> Sent at:2018 Mar 21 (Wed) 07:34
>>>
>>> To:Heather Forrest <haforrestesq at gmail.com>; GNSO Council List <
>>> council at gnso.icann.org>
>>>
>>> Subject:Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: [soac-chairs] ccNSO Council
>>> resolves not to participate in RDS/WHOIS2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Heather, Susan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Where does this leave the RDS Review Team in terms of adequate
>>> membership? I know Susan has raised concerns previously that there isn’t
>>> enough people to do the work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is it possible for the GNSO to recommend additional candidates to fill
>>> the vacancies left by the ccNSO’s decision not to appoint volunteers?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Donna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* council [mailto:council-bounces at gnso.icann.org
>>> <council-bounces at gnso.icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Heather Forrest
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:51 AM
>>> *To:* GNSO Council List <council at gnso.icann.org>
>>> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] [council] Fwd: [soac-chairs] ccNSO Council
>>> resolves not to participate in RDS/WHOIS2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Council colleagues,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please note the ccNSO's affirmed position on RDS/WHOIS2 RT.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Heather
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: *Katrina Sataki* <katrina at nic.lv>
>>> Date: Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:37 PM
>>> Subject: [soac-chairs] ccNSO Council resolves not to participate in
>>> RDS/WHOIS2
>>> To: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
>>> Cc: Goran Marby <goran.marby at icann.org>, Chris Disspain <
>>> chris.disspain at board.icann.org>, mike.silber at board.icann.org, SOAC
>>> Chairs <soac-chairs at icann.org>
>>>
>>> 7 March 2018
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To: Alan Greenberg, RDS/WHOIS 2 Review Team, Chair
>>>
>>> CC: Chris Disspain, Mike Silber, Göran Marby, Chairs of ALAC, ASO, GAC,
>>> GNSO, SSAC, RSAC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Alan,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In May 2017, we informed the ICANN Board of Directors that the ccNSO did
>>> not find itself in a position to nominate candidates for the RDS/ WHOIS2
>>> Review Team, and deferred participation in this specific review.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 18 January 2018, the ccNSO Council again discussed its participation
>>> in the review. Following this discussion, by 16 February 2018, the ccNSO
>>> Council decided not to participate in the RDS/WHOIS2 specific review.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The ccNSO Council thanks the volunteers who sought endorsement of the
>>> ccNSO.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Katrina Sataki,
>>>
>>> Chair of the ccNSO
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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