[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Updated scope section document + notes from today's EPDP scope call

[Kathy Kleiman]

There is, unfortunately, precedent for this conduct... we've seen it 
before and fought it before. Tx you for fighting it now.

Kathy


On 7/10/2018 5:51 AM, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
> This is outrageous; when Stephanie submits a redlined document, it is 
> too difficult for ICANN staff to consider and she must start a fresh, 
> adding the comments manually into the Google Doc that didn't exist in 
> the first place and necessitated making the comments in Word (because 
> Marika refused initially to enable comments on the Google Doc, despite 
> repeated requests from Rubens, as she wanted to be the gatekeeper). 
> Now the IPC sends in a redlined document and every single comment is 
> added by staff into the document. My edits were all rejected by Marika 
> last week. This is not fair, and I think we should formally complain 
> about this. We need to start documenting staff bias.
>
> Ayden
>
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On 9 July 2018 10:38 PM, Stephanie Perrin 
> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>
>> I am not very happy with the "small team" efforts.  My comments are 
>> being ignored (surprise surprise) and the BC/IPC is being permitted 
>> to do back room drafting with staff, after coming in at the last 
>> minute (7 minutes to our meeting time) with new language.  I wanted 
>> that paragraph thrown out wholesale....
>>
>> And the questions are not all legit, and if the answers to the gating 
>> questions are not approved by the community, no matter, we go on 
>> regardless.
>>
>> please take a minute to think about this mess, we are being driven by 
>> artificial deadlines to finish and agree.
>>
>> steph
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject:
>> 	Updated scope section document + notes from today's EPDP scope call
>> Date:
>> 	Mon, 9 Jul 2018 20:08:28 +0000
>> From:
>> 	Caitlin Tubergen <caitlin.tubergen at icann.org>
>> To:
>> 	Drazek, Keith <kdrazek at verisign.com>, Susan Kawaguchi 
>> <susankpolicy at gmail.com>, stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca 
>> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>, Donna Austin 
>> <donna.austin at team.neustar>, rafik.dammak at gmail.com 
>> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>, Heather Forrest <haforrestesq at gmail.com>, 
>> gnso-secs at icann.org <gnso-secs at icann.org>, Paul McGrady (Google Docs) 
>> <d+MTE3MzIyNzA1MjYyOTU3ODM2OTY2-MTE1MTM1NDA5ODg5NTEyMTUyMzA5 at docs.google.com>, 
>> Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Team,
>>
>>
>> Following our call today, Donna and I have been working on the Google 
>> Doc from this morning’s EPDP Scope call.
>>
>>
>> Here are the changes we made:
>>
>>
>>  1. Based on the comments from Paul and others regarding the
>>     difficulty of tracking comments in Google docs to the text, I
>>     inserted proposed text into the body of the document where the
>>     commenter is proposing it should go.  All proposed text is
>>     denoted by /italics and highlighted in yellow/ for ease of
>>     reference.  I’m hoping that will make it easier to discuss on the
>>     call by zeroing in on highlighted text.
>>  2. I have removed references to phases and inserted references to
>>     gating questions. This text has been highlighted in yellow to
>>     note that it has been changed.
>>  3. Proposed gating questions have their numbering highlighted in
>>     green. There may be other gating questions, but I highlighted the
>>     originally-proposed gating questions as a starting point.
>>  4. Donna and I added some comments on what the group appeared to
>>     converge on during today’s call.
>>  5. Lastly, I attached the notes from today’s call in case you find
>>     these helpful as you’re going through the document.
>>
>>
>> Here is the link to the Google Doc: 
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TlcnfYuRhrCKVB28Rvb_ra6mCIWvjUDnJyJhSjbG5_Q/edit
>>
>>
>> Thank you, and please let me know if there is anything I can do to 
>> assist in your review of the document.
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>>
>> Caitlin
>>
>>
>>
>>
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