[NCSG-PC] EPDP DT Call today: What is our position?

Thu Jul 5 16:05:36 EEST 2018

Gents, please stop this and let's focus on what matters.
points were made and taken, we are in the middle of an important call.
this kind of interaction reflects badly on you and the rest of us. we are
here to help each other.
yes, we can give briefing but also everyone as councillor needs to do his
homework. we all are under pressure this week and we got to get this EPDP
done.

Rafik
Le jeu. 5 juil. 2018 à 22:00, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> a
écrit :

> I asked you if you were on the audio bridge, to which you responded: "I
> don't see the point of this question. So, i will not respond to it."
>
> If i could see that from the Adobe room, I would not have asked.
>
> Ayden
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>
> On 5 July 2018 2:57 PM, Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 
> >
> > Just for the record, I am on Audio bridge (due to connectivity issues)
> >
> > since the beginning of this important meeting, Ayden.
> >
> > I thought you could note it from the AC room, my apologies if this is
> >
> > not possible.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Arsene
> >
> > 2018-07-05 14:52 UTC+02:00, Ayden Férdeline icann at ferdeline.com:
> >
> > > > You should be able to see this by yourself, I don't see the point of
> > > >
> > > > this question. So, i will not respond to it.
> > >
> > > Yes, I can see this, and you are not in the room, despite this being a
> very
> > >
> > > important call.
> > >
> > > Ayden
> > >
> > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> > >
> > > On 5 July 2018 2:46 PM, Arsène Tungali arsenebaguma at gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > My last comment on this thread is bellow.
> > > >
> > > > 2018-07-05 14:37 UTC+02:00, Ayden Férdeline icann at ferdeline.com:
> > > >
> > > > > You are not even in the Adobe room - are you on the audio bridge?
> > > >
> > > > You should be able to see this by yourself, I don't see the point of
> > > >
> > > > this question. So, i will not respond to it.
> > > >
> > > > > It is not my responsibility - or the responsibility of others - to
> brief
> > > > >
> > > > > you
> > > > >
> > > > > on this. You should do your own homework, and not expect others to
> keep
> > > > >
> > > > > you
> > > > >
> > > > > informed.
> > > >
> > > > Just for the record, I didn't say it was the responsibility of anyone
> > > >
> > > > to brief me. So, thank you for the unecessary reminder.
> > > >
> > > > I was not able to attend the PC call (and sent my apologies to the
> > > >
> > > > list) nor be able to read the transcripts (for the same reasons). I
> > > >
> > > > asked for help from fellow councilors or PC members and I received it
> > > >
> > > > from someone ready to help.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Arsene
> > > >
> > > > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> > > > >
> > > > > On 5 July 2018 2:34 PM, Arsène Tungali arsenebaguma at gmail.com
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Ayden,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This was just another opportunity for you to keep quiet if you
> cannot
> > > > > >
> > > > > > help and not speaking on behalf of eveyone by using "we".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > FY, another member has kindly brieffed me already, after reading
> > > > > >
> > > > > > this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > @All, please disregard this email.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Arsene
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2018-07-05 14:29 UTC+02:00, Ayden Férdeline icann at ferdeline.com:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Arsene,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As I already told you - 20 minutes ago - the call has already
> began,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > so
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > do not have the time to catch you up. It's your responsibility
> to
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > do
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > your
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > own homework, or to ask before a call begins.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ayden
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 5 July 2018 2:19 PM, Arsène Tungali arsenebaguma at gmail.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Since i was not able to join the PC call this week and that
> we
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > already
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > at the DT call, may I please have in few bullet points what
> are
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > our
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > positions with regards to the Charter?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This will be super helpful.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Arsene
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Arsène Tungali
> > > > > > > >
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> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Arsène Tungali http://about.me/ArseneTungali
> > > >
> > > > Co-Founder & Executive Director, Rudi international
> > > >
> > > > http://www.rudiinternational.org,
> > > >
> > > > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl https://www.smart-kitoko.com/*, *Mabingwa
> Forum
> > > >
> > > > http://www.mabingwa-forum.com*
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > GPG: 523644A0
> > > >
> > > > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo
> > > >
> > > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
> > > >
> > > >
> http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html
> > > >
> > > > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
> > > >
> > > >
> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors
> > > >
> > > > & Mexico
> > > >
> > > >
> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors
> )
> > > >
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> Blogger
> > > >
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> > > >
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> Fellow (
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> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > -   *IGFSA Member http://www.igfsa.org/ - Internet Governance -
> Internet
> > > >
> > > > Freedom.
> > > >
> > > > Check the 2016 State of Internet Freedom in DRC report (English
> > > >
> > > > http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=234) and (French
> > > >
> > > > http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=242)
> >
> > --
> >
> > Arsène Tungali http://about.me/ArseneTungali
> >
> > Co-Founder & Executive Director, Rudi international
> >
> > http://www.rudiinternational.org,
> >
> > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl https://www.smart-kitoko.com/*, *Mabingwa
> Forum
> >
> > http://www.mabingwa-forum.com*
> >
> > Tel: +243 993810967
> >
> > GPG: 523644A0
> >
> > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo
> >
> > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
> >
> >
> http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html
> >
> > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
> >
> >
> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors
> >
> > & Mexico
> >
> >
> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors
> )
> >
> > -   AFRISIG 2016 http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/ -
> Blogger
> >
> > http://tungali.blogspot.com - ICANN's GNSO Council
> >
> > https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm Member. AFRINIC Fellow
> (
> >
> > Mauritius
> >
> >
> http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners)*
> >
> > -   *IGFSA Member http://www.igfsa.org/ - Internet Governance - Internet
> >
> > Freedom.
> >
> > Check the 2016 State of Internet Freedom in DRC report (English
> >
> > http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=234) and (French
> >
> > http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=242)
>
>
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