<div dir="ltr">Gents, please stop this and let's focus on what matters.<div>points were made and taken, we are in the middle of an important call.</div><div>this kind of interaction reflects badly on you and the rest of us. we are here to help each other.</div><div>yes, we can give briefing but also everyone as councillor needs to do his homework. we all are under pressure this week and we got to get this EPDP done. </div><div><br></div><div>Rafik<br><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Le jeu. 5 juil. 2018 à 22:00, Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com">icann@ferdeline.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I asked you if you were on the audio bridge, to which you responded: "I don't see the point of this question. So, i will not respond to it."<br>
<br>
If i could see that from the Adobe room, I would not have asked.<br>
<br>
Ayden <br>
<br>
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br>
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On 5 July 2018 2:57 PM, Arsène Tungali <<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" target="_blank">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Just for the record, I am on Audio bridge (due to connectivity issues)<br>
> <br>
> since the beginning of this important meeting, Ayden.<br>
> <br>
> I thought you could note it from the AC room, my apologies if this is<br>
> <br>
> not possible.<br>
> <br>
> Thanks,<br>
> <br>
> Arsene<br>
> <br>
> 2018-07-05 14:52 UTC+02:00, Ayden Férdeline <a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>:<br>
> <br>
> > > You should be able to see this by yourself, I don't see the point of<br>
> > > <br>
> > > this question. So, i will not respond to it.<br>
> > <br>
> > Yes, I can see this, and you are not in the room, despite this being a very<br>
> > <br>
> > important call.<br>
> > <br>
> > Ayden<br>
> > <br>
> > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br>
> > <br>
> > On 5 July 2018 2:46 PM, Arsène Tungali <a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" target="_blank">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
> > <br>
> > > My last comment on this thread is bellow.<br>
> > > <br>
> > > 2018-07-05 14:37 UTC+02:00, Ayden Férdeline <a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>:<br>
> > > <br>
> > > > You are not even in the Adobe room - are you on the audio bridge?<br>
> > > <br>
> > > You should be able to see this by yourself, I don't see the point of<br>
> > > <br>
> > > this question. So, i will not respond to it.<br>
> > > <br>
> > > > It is not my responsibility - or the responsibility of others - to brief<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > you<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > on this. You should do your own homework, and not expect others to keep<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > you<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > informed.<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Just for the record, I didn't say it was the responsibility of anyone<br>
> > > <br>
> > > to brief me. So, thank you for the unecessary reminder.<br>
> > > <br>
> > > I was not able to attend the PC call (and sent my apologies to the<br>
> > > <br>
> > > list) nor be able to read the transcripts (for the same reasons). I<br>
> > > <br>
> > > asked for help from fellow councilors or PC members and I received it<br>
> > > <br>
> > > from someone ready to help.<br>
> > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Thanks,<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Arsene<br>
> > > <br>
> > > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > On 5 July 2018 2:34 PM, Arsène Tungali <a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" target="_blank">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > > Hi Ayden,<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > This was just another opportunity for you to keep quiet if you cannot<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > help and not speaking on behalf of eveyone by using "we".<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > FY, another member has kindly brieffed me already, after reading<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > this.<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > @All, please disregard this email.<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Regards,<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Arsene<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > 2018-07-05 14:29 UTC+02:00, Ayden Férdeline <a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>:<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > > Hi Arsene,<br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > As I already told you - 20 minutes ago - the call has already began,<br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > so<br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > we<br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > do not have the time to catch you up. It's your responsibility to<br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > do<br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > your<br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > own homework, or to ask before a call begins.<br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > Ayden<br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > On 5 July 2018 2:19 PM, Arsène Tungali <a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" target="_blank">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a><br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > wrote:<br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > Hi all,<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > Since i was not able to join the PC call this week and that we<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > are<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > already<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > at the DT call, may I please have in few bullet points what are<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > our<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > positions with regards to the Charter?<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > This will be super helpful.<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > Thanks,<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > Arsene<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > Arsène Tungali<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > Co-Founder & Executive Director, Rudiinternational,<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > CEO, Smart Services Sarl, MabingwaForum<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > Tel: +243 993810967<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > GPG: 523644A0<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > 2015 Mandela WashingtonFelllow<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > Brazil<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > &<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > Mexico)<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > - AFRISIG 2016 -<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > Blogger - ICANN's GNSOCouncil Member.AFRINIC<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > Fellow(Mauritius)<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > - IGFSA Member - Internet Governance - Internet<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > Freedom.<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > Check the 2016 State of Internet Freedom in DRC report<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > (English) and<br>
> > > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > > (French)<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > --<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Arsène Tungali <a href="http://about.me/ArseneTungali" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://about.me/ArseneTungali</a><br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Co-Founder & Executive Director, Rudi international<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <a href="http://www.rudiinternational.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.rudiinternational.org</a>,<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <a href="https://www.smart-kitoko.com/*" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.smart-kitoko.com/*</a>, *Mabingwa<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Forum<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <a href="http://www.mabingwa-forum.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.mabingwa-forum.com</a>*<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Tel: +243 993810967<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > GPG: 523644A0<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html</a><br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors</a><br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > & Mexico<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors</a>)<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > - AFRISIG 2016 <a href="http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/</a> -<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Blogger<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://tungali.blogspot.com</a> - ICANN's GNSO Council<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <a href="https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm</a> Member. AFRINIC<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Fellow (<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Mauritius<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners)*" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners)*</a><br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > - *IGFSA Member <a href="http://www.igfsa.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.igfsa.org/</a> - Internet Governance -<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Internet<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Freedom.<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Check the 2016 State of Internet Freedom in DRC report (English<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <a href="http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=234" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=234</a>) and (French<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <a href="http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=242" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=242</a>)<br>
> > > <br>
> > > --<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Arsène Tungali <a href="http://about.me/ArseneTungali" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://about.me/ArseneTungali</a><br>
> > > <br>
> > > Co-Founder & Executive Director, Rudi international<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <a href="http://www.rudiinternational.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.rudiinternational.org</a>,<br>
> > > <br>
> > > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <a href="https://www.smart-kitoko.com/*" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.smart-kitoko.com/*</a>, *Mabingwa Forum<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <a href="http://www.mabingwa-forum.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.mabingwa-forum.com</a>*<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Tel: +243 993810967<br>
> > > <br>
> > > GPG: 523644A0<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo<br>
> > > <br>
> > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html</a><br>
> > > <br>
> > > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors</a><br>
> > > <br>
> > > & Mexico<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors</a>)<br>
> > > <br>
> > > - AFRISIG 2016 <a href="http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/</a> - Blogger<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://tungali.blogspot.com</a> - ICANN's GNSO Council<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <a href="https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm</a> Member. AFRINIC Fellow (<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Mauritius<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners)*" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners)*</a><br>
> > > <br>
> > > - *IGFSA Member <a href="http://www.igfsa.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.igfsa.org/</a> - Internet Governance - Internet<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Freedom.<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Check the 2016 State of Internet Freedom in DRC report (English<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <a href="http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=234" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=234</a>) and (French<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <a href="http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=242" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=242</a>)<br>
> <br>
> --<br>
> <br>
> Arsène Tungali <a href="http://about.me/ArseneTungali" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://about.me/ArseneTungali</a><br>
> <br>
> Co-Founder & Executive Director, Rudi international<br>
> <br>
> <a href="http://www.rudiinternational.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.rudiinternational.org</a>,<br>
> <br>
> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <a href="https://www.smart-kitoko.com/*" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.smart-kitoko.com/*</a>, *Mabingwa Forum<br>
> <br>
> <a href="http://www.mabingwa-forum.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.mabingwa-forum.com</a>*<br>
> <br>
> Tel: +243 993810967<br>
> <br>
> GPG: 523644A0<br>
> <br>
> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo<br>
> <br>
> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow<br>
> <br>
> <a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html</a><br>
> <br>
> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil<br>
> <br>
> <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors</a><br>
> <br>
> & Mexico<br>
> <br>
> <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors</a>)<br>
> <br>
> - AFRISIG 2016 <a href="http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/</a> - Blogger<br>
> <br>
> <a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://tungali.blogspot.com</a> - ICANN's GNSO Council<br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm</a> Member. AFRINIC Fellow (<br>
> <br>
> Mauritius<br>
> <br>
> <a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners)*" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners)*</a><br>
> <br>
> - *IGFSA Member <a href="http://www.igfsa.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.igfsa.org/</a> - Internet Governance - Internet<br>
> <br>
> Freedom.<br>
> <br>
> Check the 2016 State of Internet Freedom in DRC report (English<br>
> <br>
> <a href="http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=234" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=234</a>) and (French<br>
> <br>
> <a href="http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=242" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=242</a>)<br>
<br>
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