[NCSG-PC] Comment on Membership structure of EPDP

Sun Jul 1 06:45:54 EEST 2018

Thanks Farzaneh for catching this. You have our support. Any concrete next
steps?

best

On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 9:32 PM, Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Farzaneh, thanks for whatching the list :)
>
> Keith literally ignored my message, this is telling.
>
> I also agree that we need to continue pushing for this until it is
> resolved (or we reach a comprimise) and not doing so in time will
> result in us being busy fighting other battles and forget about this
> one.
>
> We should indeed have the same number of reps within the NCPH (which
> should be 6 not 9, or at least 3) and have only 1 from the ACs. I am
> still wondering how Keith came to suggest this inequality between CSG
> and NCSG.
>
> 2018-06-30 20:35 UTC+02:00, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I checked the mailing list of the EPDP, and I think our council members
> > have to make the issue with the latest EPDP membership structure quite
> > clear.
> >
> > Keith Drazek says in the email that:
> >
> > * Attached is my updated version of the membership structure
> > (following this mornings discussion)*
> >
> > I would like to know based on what rationale it was decided to
> > allocate 9 membership slots to CSG while all other SGs have only 3
> > members.
> >
> > Can someone bring up the problem clearly on the list? If you want to
> > coordinate, please lets have a chat about this on the PC mailing list
> > upon your arrival from Panama on Monday. Ayden has weighed in but we
> > need to weigh in and call out the number of membership slots that been
> > allocated to CSG as opposed to NCSG.
> >
> > If our council members  want the allocation be 6 members (instead of
> > 3) for  each SG at NCPH, that is another matter to be discussed (and
> > was suggested on NCSG mailing list by STephanie) but this issue that
> > we are at a disadvantage is clear and needs to be corrected. At NCPH
> > The number of NCSG epdp members should be equal to CSG epdp members.
> >
> >
> > I see reactions from Ayden and Arsene below. I think there needs to be
> > more reaction, delineating the problem on the mailing list and arguing
> > for equal number of members to participate at SG level.
> >
> >
> > I personally prefer to keep all the SGs limited to 3 EPDP members but
> > if at the moment we can't agree on this, at least we need to flag that
> > CSG is getting 9 members
> >
> >
> > (I was supposed to send this yesterday I don't know if the issue been
> > raised already but I doubt it since you are traveling. If has been
> > then sorry for the unnecessary email.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Keith,
> >
> > Can you please confirm you have noted these suggested edits by Ayden
> > and that you will update your document?
> >
> > If no one has any objection to them, may i suggest these edits be
> > incorporated in the latest version of the draft charter?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Arsene
> > -----------------
> > Arsène Tungali,
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)
> >
> >>* On Jun 27, 2018, at 11:23 PM, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com
> >> <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/epdp-dt>> wrote:
> > *> >* Thank you for preparing this, Keith.
> > *> >* I do not support other SO/ACs being able to appoint 3 members
> > each. I prefer the original language that they only be permitted to
> > appoint 1 member each (and 1 alternate).
> > *> >* I remain concerned with the first bullet point, and prefer the
> > original text that members be appointed by Stakeholder Groups. How
> > each Stakeholder Group organises itself internally to appoint its own
> > membership composition is its own prerogative.
> > *> >* Similarly, in regards to bullet point # 9 on establishing
> > consensus, I would like this to be revised from "SG/C" to "Stakeholder
> > Group."
> > *> >* In regards to bullet point # 12, please revise from, "The CPH
> > must not be disadvantaged as a result during any assessment of
> > consensus" to "Neither the CPH nor NCSG of the NCPH may be
> > disadvantaged as a result during any assessment of consensus."
> > *> >* Thank you again for working on this, Keith.
> > *> >* Best wishes,
> > *> >* Ayden Férdeline
> > *> > >* ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> > *>>* On 27 June 2018 10:10 PM, Drazek, Keith via Epdp-dt <epdp-dt at
> > icann.org <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/epdp-dt>> wrote:
> > *>> >>* Hi all,
> > *>> >> >> >> >>* Attached is my updated version of the membership
> > structure (following this mornings discussion), and also some very
> > preliminary proposed text for the eventual resolution.
> > *>> >> >>  >> >>* Please send comments!!
> > *>> >>  >> >>* Thanks,
> > *>> >>* Keith*
> >
> >
> > Farzaneh
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> >
>
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