[NCSG-PC] Reviewing NCSG comment on diversity

[Rafik Dammak]

Hi,

Thanks for the comments.
I believe we can finalize the draft. it was shared for weeks for
consultation but we didn't get enough input.
as co-rapporteur of that subgroup, I really hope that my own group submits
a comment. I believe that the group could do more but it was hard to find
consensus in some areas. my conclusion was at the end that we need to get
some foundations that can be used later and not risk to have nothing. with
regard to the summary, I think the subgroup will analyze the comments and
not waiting for it if we don't have that many responses, based on other
subgroups experience.

with regard to diversity skills, I am neutral. it was discussed several
times in the subgroup and was something advocated by SSAC representative
which explained that SSAC usually looks for diversity of background (for
example to not end up with only DNS operators). there was the argument that
can be used to dismiss candidates in nomcom for example. we can suggest
text to clarify that element so it can provide guidance during
implementation.

I think the current list is acceptable. to be honest, I am not sure to
which extent we can add more and be more granular.

Best,

Rafik

2018-01-10 7:52 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:

> Firstly, thanks to all who were involved in drafting this comment.
>
> I have now done a very heavy edit of the Google Doc, so if you have
> already reviewed it, please can you consider reviewing it again, as I have
> made many changes.
>
> That said, I don't think this comment is ready for submission just yet.
> When I look over the comment I think, what is it that we have suggested
> here that we would like to see in the staff summary of comments received?
> I'm not sure. I don't think our ASK is very clear.
>
> I have some issues with the elements of diversity which the subgroup
> identified, but as I was not involved in their work, I don't have the
> background to know how they were determined. I have serious concerns around
> "diverse skills" being an element of diversity. The definition (pasted
> below my signature) inspires no confidence that it is not going to be an
> instrument manipulated to maintain the status quo. I think it's both hard
> to measure and arguably applicable to anyone. The edits from Renata in the
> Google Doc hint that maybe the seven diversity elements are not
> sufficiently exhaustive, and I think that's true, but we seem to have been
> okay with all of the elements that were identified, and I'm wondering if
> that is the case.
>
> — Ayden
>
> Diverse Skills: Diversity in skills contributes to the quality of ICANN
> policy formulation, decision-making and outreach. It is important to
> highlight and advocate the advantages of individuals bringing different and
> diverse skills sets into ICANN's many activities. All activities and groups
> within ICANN will benefit from having a diverse range of skills available.
> Outcomes formulated from diverse skills and knowledge will have a higher
> probability of being accepted by a diverse community. Increased diversity
> would help expand the diversity of skills within ICANN. Thus, achieving
> diversity in skills should not be seen as a choice between skills and
> diversity which excludes participation, but rather one which values many
> skills sets and facilitates inclusion and broad participation.
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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Reviewing NCSG comment on diversity
> Local Time: 8 January 2018 2:40 PM
> UTC Time: 8 January 2018 13:40
> From: farellfolly at gmail.com
> To: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
>
> At glance, it is seems ok to me. I will read again for proof reading.
>
> Le lun. 8 janv. 2018 à 07:42, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> as you know we have several public comments draft to endorse in coming
>> days.
>> the draft on CCWG recommendation on diversity was put for consultation
>> for weeks and received some comments.
>>
>> you can find the draft here https://docs.google.com/document/d/
>> 1m4NHYQj9uOzS5qMU0z6ZdNhqJa7BRPOuHxJuObpewds/edit# . I made some
>> suggestions and put comments myself there.
>> We need to clean-up the draft and prepare for review and endorsement soon
>> within this week. comments and proof-reading would be helpful.
>>
>> the deadline for submission is the 14th Jan. our internal deadline for
>> endorsement should be the 13th Jan.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
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