[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Deadline Extended: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG Initial Report - Public Comment

Kathy Kleiman kathy at kathykleiman.com
Mon Aug 27 07:20:26 EEST 2018


Hi Elsa,

With the deadline still pending last week, I went ahead, printed off the 
300 page report, and spent hours digging into it. I also participated in 
Subgroup 2 -- Legal and Regulatory -- and was dismayed by the lack of 
data, systematic analysis, or serious consideration of views other than 
those being directly represented by members of the subgroup (nearly all 
active members representing large, incumbent New gTLD Registries who 
want to register hundreds (or more) New gTLDs).

I remember our goals in the first Applicant Guidebook in the late 2000's 
-- how excited we were to see Internationalized Domain Names, and our 
great hope that Applicants for New gTLDs would be from countries and 
regions underrepresented (and, in some cases, completely unrepresented) 
as registries in the existing (legacy) gTLDs. In this next round (or the 
many next rounds the SubPro Working Group envisions), I see many of 
these hopes being dashed and am very concerned.

The devil is in the details -- in the very procedural rules they are 
setting out. I am deeply concerned that with insufficient notice and 
guidance, smaller and more diverse entities will not be able to apply. 
I'm equally concerned that with no limits to applications, or even the 
proposed "first-come, first-served" system (which I'll rename "the all 
you can gobble" approach), there will be no time for the Global South to 
catch up -- everything could well be given away by then.

Extensive comments!  More can be added, particularly on the issues you 
and Bruna highlighted.  If you can link these principles and important 
discussion to specific sections of the Initial Report in which they are 
discussed, it will help to ensure that our comments, and your important 
thoughts, will receive the credit they deserve when comments are 
compiled by staff into a report.

I'm out of the office for this last week of summer, but otherwise 
around. Best, Kathy


On 8/25/2018 8:53 PM, Elsa S wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Any chance we could meet this coming week to fix the document? I’ll 
> touch base with Robin and maybe Kathy to see if they could join us to 
> answer some of our questions on the doc. In the meantime, I’ll be 
> reviewing the doc and seeing if we could add any further points.
>
> Let me know if interested! I can set up a google doc.
>
> E.
>>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 7:27 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com 
> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Thanks Farzaneh, that is good for us.
>     I touched base few days ago with Elsa and Bruna regarding the
>     status of our draft and we are currently progressing.  I think
>     Kathy is also helping for the review and Robin will be consulted too.
>     as reminder we organized few weeks ago a NCSG webinar
>     (https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/NCSG+Webinars)
>     on the report presented by Robin where she highlighted the most
>     important and relevant topics for us, I advice everyone to listen
>     to it. while the report is 300 pages (there are appendices etc),
>     it can be easier to listen to the webinar and check the
>     spreadsheet made by the WG with all the recommendations and
>     questions organized by topic.
>
>     Best,
>
>     Rafik
>
>     Le ven. 24 août 2018 à 01:31, farzaneh badii
>     <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>
>         we got some time for this huge document to comment on. A big Phew.
>
>         Farzaneh
>
>
>         ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>         From: *Emily Barabas*
>
>
>         Dear Farzaneh,
>
>         We are writing to let you know that the public comment period
>         <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/gtld-subsequent-procedures-initial-2018-07-03-en>
>         for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG Initial Report
>         has been extended. Public comments will now be accepted
>         through *26 September 2018*. Can you kindly assist in sharing
>         this information with the relevant members of your group?
>
>         Best regards,
>
>         Cheryl Langdon-Orr and Jeff Neuman (WG Co-Chairs)
>
>         *From: *Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine at icann.org
>         <mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org>>
>         *Date: *Wednesday, 4 July 2018 at 04:50
>         *To: *farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
>         <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>>
>         *Cc: *"jeff.neuman at comlaude.com
>         <mailto:jeff.neuman at comlaude.com>" <jeff.neuman at comlaude.com
>         <mailto:jeff.neuman at comlaude.com>>, Cheryl Langdon-Orr
>         <langdonorr at gmail.com <mailto:langdonorr at gmail.com>>, Steve
>         Chan <steve.chan at icann.org <mailto:steve.chan at icann.org>>,
>         Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org
>         <mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>>, Emily Barabas
>         <emily.barabas at icann.org <mailto:emily.barabas at icann.org>>,
>         Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org
>         <mailto:maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>>, "gnso-secs at icann.org
>         <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>" <gnso-secs at icann.org
>         <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>>
>         *Subject: *New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG Initial
>         Report - Public Comment
>
>         Dear Farzaneh,
>
>         We write to you as the Co-Chairs of the GNSO’s New gTLD
>         Subsequent Procedures Working Group (WG), which is tasked with
>         calling upon the community’s collective experiences from the
>         2012 New gTLD Program round to consider potential changes that
>         may be needed to the existing 2007 Introduction of New Generic
>         Top-Level Domains policy recommendations and implementation.
>         We are pleased to share that the Working Group has reached an
>         important milestone by publishing its Initial Report for
>         Public Comment [icann.org]
>         <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_public-2Dcomments_gtld-2Dsubsequent-2Dprocedures-2Dinitial-2D2018-2D07-2D03-2Den&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PDd_FX3f4MVgkEIi9GHvVoUhbecsvLhgsyXrxgtbL10DTBs0i1jYiBM_uTSDzgqG&m=4gYyCwhtEI98RlWT6m_3FasU_W94CPJVbYvXvdaDxws&s=TwT7TfmDQ6Na2XFI7TKEFTn4pi5z-7JSXypjqAP6rRE&e=>.
>         We would like to strongly encourage you to review this report
>         and provide feedback through public comment on the draft
>         preliminary recommendations, options, and questions for
>         community feedback. Your input is essential to the success of
>         this PDP.
>
>         *1. Background on the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG*
>
>         The GNSO’s New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group (WG),
>         which was chartered by the GNSO Council to conduct a Policy
>         Development Process (PDP), is seeking to determine what, if
>         any, changes may need to be made to the existing/Introduction
>         of New Generic Top-Level Domains/ [gnso.icann.org]
>         <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_issues_new-2Dgtlds_pdp-2Ddec05-2Dfr-2Dparta-2D08aug07.htm&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PDd_FX3f4MVgkEIi9GHvVoUhbecsvLhgsyXrxgtbL10DTBs0i1jYiBM_uTSDzgqG&m=4gYyCwhtEI98RlWT6m_3FasU_W94CPJVbYvXvdaDxws&s=fAYAOAlC7DqbvB0WyYMiIOXAkUC6kzqPgR62nsJhHCQ&e=>//policy
>         recommendations from 8 August 2007 as well as the
>         finalApplicant Guidebook [newgtlds.icann.org]
>         <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__newgtlds.icann.org_en_applicants_agb&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PDd_FX3f4MVgkEIi9GHvVoUhbecsvLhgsyXrxgtbL10DTBs0i1jYiBM_uTSDzgqG&m=4gYyCwhtEI98RlWT6m_3FasU_W94CPJVbYvXvdaDxws&s=iK3CVAc8mCe_CJRGZTBv2B_bDcoekw7F1Tg2uNLpbsI&e=>dated
>         June 2012. As the original policy recommendations as adopted
>         by the GNSO Council and ICANN Board have “been designed to
>         produce systemized and ongoing mechanisms for applicants to
>         propose new top-level domains,” those policy recommendations
>         remain in place for subsequent rounds of the New gTLD Program
>         unless the GNSO Council would decide to modify those policy
>         recommendations via a policy development process. The PDP WG
>         created 5 Work Tracks that are responsible for considering the
>         subjects within its charter. The PDP WG sought community input
>         through two community comment periods. The Working Group has
>         produced its Initial Report, which includes material from the
>         full Working Group and Work Tracks 1-4. Work Track 5, focused
>         on Geographic Names at the Top-Level, was established later
>         than the other Work Tracks and will produce a separate Initial
>         Report.
>
>         *2. Information about the Initial Report and the Public Comment*
>
>         The objective of this Initial Report is to document the
>         Working Group’s deliberations on charter issues and
>         preliminary recommendations, potential options for
>         recommendations, as well as specific questions for which the
>         Working Group is seeking input. Given the large number of
>         issues, and the thousands of hours spent on addressing the
>         2012 New gTLD Program and improvements that can be made to the
>         program moving forward, unlike other Initial Reports, this one
>         does not contain a “Statement of level of consensus for the
>         recommendations presented in the Initial Report.” The
>         Co-Chairs not only believed that it was premature to measure
>         the level of consensus of the Working Group members of dozens
>         of recommendations contained within the Initial Report, but
>         that doing so could have the unintended consequence of locking
>         Working Group members into positions of support or opposition
>         prior to soliciting public comment from the community on those
>         recommendations. To form such definitive positions at this
>         early of a stage could have the adverse effect of being less
>         open to modifications to those positions as a result of
>         community input.
>
>         In addition, though many of the preliminary recommendations
>         were generally agreed to by members that participated in the
>         different Work Tracks, support has not been assessed amongst
>         the members of the overall Working Group. The Overall Working
>         Group has not sought to form definitive positions on each of
>         these issues at this stage. Therefore, any language in this
>         report that suggests that the Working Group or any of its Work
>         Tracks is making a recommendation should be read as merely a
>         rough assessment by the Working Group Co-Chairs or Work Track
>         leads.
>
>         After a comprehensive review of public comments received on
>         this report, the Working Group will deliberate further on the
>         preliminary recommendations contained within the Initial
>         Report. It is possible that as a result of the deliberations,
>         there may be supplemental reports released by the Working
>         Group seeking additional public comments. Once all of that is
>         completed, the Co-Chairs will conduct any formal consensus
>         call(s) at the plenary level, on all recommendations before
>         the Working Group issues its Final Report.
>
>         Thank you for your consideration of this request. We look
>         forward to any comments and any input that you and the
>         organization you Chair are able to provide to our WG. While we
>         of course welcome input on any area of the report, we would
>         like to stress that given the extensive number of topics and
>         preliminary outcomes, you should not feel compelled to respond
>         to every single preliminary recommendation, option, and
>         question. If possible, please submit your comments and input
>         to us by 5 September 2018 so that we may fully consider it in
>         our further deliberations.
>
>         Best regards,
>
>         Cheryl Langdon-Orr and Jeff Neuman (WG Co-Chairs)
>
>         Nathalie Peregrine
>
>         Manager, Operations Support (GNSO)
>
>         Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>
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