[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Request for NSCG endorsement -- GNSO Liaison to the GAC

Rafik Dammak rafik.dammak at gmail.com
Sat Sep 9 15:44:54 EEST 2017


Hi Ayden,

I double-checked, I couldn't find any additional application.

Best,

Rafik

2017-09-09 21:37 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:

> Hi,
>
> It has been brought to my attention that there may have been a fourth
> candidate for our endorsement. Rafik, are you able to confirm this? If true
> - I am inclined to agree with Tapani that we might need to re-think our
> strategy as to who we endorse...
>
> —Ayden
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Request for NSCG endorsement -- GNSO Liaison
> to the GAC
> Local Time: 9 September 2017 12:33 PM
> UTC Time: 9 September 2017 11:33
> From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info
> To: ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is
>
> Hi all,
>
> I"m not sure we can put the candidates in order, but if we do, I would
> also put Julf first. Among other reasons he"s the only one of them
> with councillor experience.
>
> Second, I would not endorse Pascal. Even though the deadline given was
> vague ("before Friday"), he did not follow the instructions but
> submitted his application directly to the secretariat, and we didn"t
> say we"d endorse everybody who asks - indeed we should not, but at
> least try to consider the applications" substance, even though time is
> short.
>
> I agree with Rafik that submitting more candidates is likely to lessen
> our changes of getting any of them through, and looking at the
> applications Pascal seems to me weakest of the three.
>
> Tapani
>
> (going offline for a week, so won"t be commenting on this any more)
>
> On Sat, Sep 09, 2017 at 01:04:25PM +0200, Dr. Tatiana Tropina (
> t.tropina at mpicc.de) wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ayden,
> >
> > thanks a lot. It seems that endorsing all three but proposing the
> > preferred order is the best way.
> >
> > All: I personally would rather put Julf as number one, but I am fine
> > with Ayden"s proposed order if everyone goes for this.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Tanya
> >
> >
> > On 09/09/17 12:58, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
> > > Hi Rafik,
> > >
> > > As we did not include a hard deadline in the email on Thursday, I
> > > suppose Pascal did submit his request for endorsement on time [at
> > > least by UTC timezone]. For that reason I support us endorsing his
> > > application.
> > >
> > > However, if it would help the SSC in their deliberations, I would
> > > propose that the preferred order of candidates from the NCSG be as
> > > follows:
> > >
> > > 1. Paul Rosenzweig
> > > 2. Julf Helsingius
> > > 3. Pascal Bekono
> > >
> > > Best wishes, Ayden
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> -------- Original Message --------
> > >> Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Request for NSCG endorsement -- GNSO
> > >> Liaison to the GAC
> > >> Local Time: 8 September 2017 11:18 PM
> > >> UTC Time: 8 September 2017 22:18
> > >> From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> > >> To: Dr. Tatiana Tropina <t.tropina at mpicc.de>
> > >> ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
> > >>
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks, I see we have support to send the 2 names as endorsed to SSC.
> > >> We got an extra application lately and not sure that everyone has
> > >> time to review it.
> > >> there is no limit to send 3 names. however, I think that sending many
> > >> names will weaken their chances of those candidatures at SSC
> > >> deliberation since as Stakeholder group we are not championing
> > >> clearly for one. that won"t make NCSG representatives to SSC easier
> > >> either give them a clear guidance from their group.
> > >>
> > >> for now, I will send Julf and Paul applications by the deadline. if
> > >> other PC members weigh in and also support sending Pascal application
> > >> in coming hours, we can submit hs endorsment afterward.
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >>
> > >> Rafik
> > >>
> > >> 2017-09-09 3:04 GMT+09:00 Dr. Tatiana Tropina <t.tropina at mpicc.de
> > >> <mailto:t.tropina at mpicc.de>>:
> > >>
> > >> Hi Rafik and all,
> > >>
> > >> I support.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >>
> > >> Tanya
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 08/09/17 14:28, Rafik Dammak wrote:
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> due to the time constraint and since we have 2 candidates, we
> > >>> can endorse both and send their applications to SSC. if there is
> > >>> no objection, I can submit them just before 23:59UTC.
> > >>> looking to hear from other PC members.
> > >>>
> > >>> Best,
> > >>>
> > >>> Rafik
> > >>>
> > >>> 2017-09-08 16:50 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com
> > >>> <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>>:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> I propose endorsing both. We are only asked, I believe, to
> > >>> support their candidacies — we have not been delegated the
> > >>> responsibility as PC of selecting the liaison.
> > >>>
> > >>> Best wishes,
> > >>>
> > >>> Ayden Férdeline
> > >>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 8:41 am, Arsène Tungali
> > >>> <arsenebaguma at gmail.com <mailto:arsenebaguma at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >>>> So how are we doing this? Do we vote by a formal poll or
> > >>>> are we just posting on here? ----------------- Arsène
> > >>>> Tungali, about.me/ArseneTungali
> > >>>> <http://about.me/ArseneTungali> +243 993810967
> <+243%20993%20810%20967>
> > >>>> <tel:+243%20993%20810%20967> GPG: 523644A0 Goma, Democratic
> > >>>> Republic of Congo Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) > On
> > >>>> Sep 8, 2017, at 7:15 AM, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > >
> > >>>> Re-sending with the attachment. > > Tapani > > -----
> > >>>> Forwarded message from Paul Rosenzweig ----- > > Dear
> > >>>> Tapani (and Farzaneh as incoming Chair) > > I am writing to
> > >>>> request that you consider endorsing me to be the GNSO >
> > >>>> Liaison to the GAC. My current SOI is here: >
> > >>>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Paul+Rosenzweig+SOI
> > >>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Paul+Rosenzweig+SOI>
> > >>>> > > My completed application template follows: > >
> > >>>> APPLICATION TEMPLATE > > Name Paul Rosenzweig > Affiliation
> > >>>> The Heritage Foundation/Red Branch > Consulting -- part of
> > >>>> the NCSG > > Please provide an overview of your
> > >>>> experience/expertise with GNSO policy > development
> > >>>> processes: Since 2014, I have been an active > member of
> > >>>> the CCWG-A in both WS1 and WS2 regarding accountability
> > >>>> mechanisms > related to the ICANN transition. As such I
> > >>>> have participated in the full > gamut of related GNSO/NCSG
> > >>>> policy issue that are of applicability to that > context.
> > >>>> Given my legal background, I have particularly focused on
> > >>>> legal > issues -- viz, ICANN"s revised mission statement,
> > >>>> the new Independent Review > Process, and ongoing
> > >>>> considerations of jurisdictional issues. I have been, > and
> > >>>> remain, especially focused on areas where the influence of
> > >>>> the GAC seems > to reflect governmental interests that are
> > >>>> inconsistent with GNSO policy. > > Please provide an
> > >>>> overview of your Previous engagements in GNSO work in a >
> > >>>> leadership capacity: I have not had a previous opportunity
> > >>>> to serve in > the GNSO or NCSG in a leadership capacity.
> > >>>> This is the first instance in > which I have volunteered
> > >>>> for such a position. > > Please describe your familiarity
> > >>>> with GAC processes, including GAC > engagement in GNSO
> > >>>> policy development: As part of my work > with the CCWG-A I
> > >>>> came to be intimately familiar with GAC processes for >
> > >>>> engaging in GNSO policy development. I suspect that few in
> > >>>> the GNSO have > paid quite as much attention as I have to
> > >>>> the GAC"s rules of operation, its > definition of
> > >>>> consensus, and the ways in which it is permitted to
> > >>>> influence > ICANN policy. Indeed the changes to those
> > >>>> processes were one of the > particular focuses of my
> > >>>> interest in the CCWG-A and one of the reasons I was >
> > >>>> skeptical of the ultimate product of the CCWG and the
> > >>>> resulting changes to > ICANN"s methods for considering GAC
> > >>>> advice. I remain of the view that GAC > engagement in GNSO
> > >>>> policy development is essential but that it should be >
> > >>>> accomplished through established GAC-GNSO liaison
> > >>>> procedures and not through > extra-procedural fiat. By way
> > >>>> of example, > I have been vocal in my view that the GAC"s
> > >>>> intervention with the Board > regarding two letter second
> > >>>> level top level domains was procedurally > improper (and
> > >>>> also disappointed that the GNSO liaison to the GAC had not
> > >>>> > alerted the GNSO to this issue earlier. [And, though
> > >>>> neutrality is a > hallmark of a good liaison, I should also
> > >>>> make clear that I find GAC claims > that second level
> > >>>> two-letter domains should be restricted deeply >
> > >>>> unpersuasive and antithetical to policies that animate the
> > >>>> NCSG and the > GNSO]. > > Please provide any other
> > >>>> information that demonstrates your qualifications > for
> > >>>> this position: It is perhaps of relevance that I have a >
> > >>>> history of service in the US government and thus a
> > >>>> reasonable understanding > of the role of governments. In
> > >>>> the 2005-09 time period I twice served as > the Acting
> > >>>> Assistant Secretary for International Affairs at the
> > >>>> Department > of Homeland Security, and thus experience in
> > >>>> international diplomatic > contexts. I attach a full resume
> > >>>> for your consideration. > > I would be happy to answer any
> > >>>> further questions you or other members of the > NCSG might
> > >>>> have. > > Regards > Paul > > Paul Rosenzweig > Red Branch
> > >>>> Consulting, PLLC > 509 C St. NE > Washington, DC 20002 >
> > >>>> paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com
> > >>>> <mailto:paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com> > O: +1
> > >>>> (202) 547-0660 <tel:+1%20202-547-0660> > M: +1 (202)
> > >>>> 329-9650 <tel:+1%20202-329-9650> > VOIP: +1 (202) 738-1739
> <+1%20202-738-1739>
> > >>>> <tel:+1%20202-738-1739> > www.redbranchconsulting.com
> > >>>> <http://www.redbranchconsulting.com> >
> > >>>> www.paulrosenzweigesq.com
> > >>>> <http://www.paulrosenzweigesq.com> > My PGP Key: >
> > >>>> https://keys.mailvelope.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x9A830
> 097CA066684
> > >>>> <https://keys.mailvelope.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x9A83
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> > >>>> > > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > >
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