[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Request for NSCG endorsement -- GNSO Liaison to the GAC

Sat Sep 9 15:37:25 EEST 2017

Hi,

It has been brought to my attention that there may have been a fourth candidate for our endorsement. Rafik, are you able to confirm this? If true - I am inclined to agree with Tapani that we might need to re-think our strategy as to who we endorse...

—Ayden

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Request for NSCG endorsement -- GNSO Liaison to the GAC
> Local Time: 9 September 2017 12:33 PM
> UTC Time: 9 September 2017 11:33
> From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info
> To: ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is
>
> Hi all,
>
> I"m not sure we can put the candidates in order, but if we do, I would
> also put Julf first. Among other reasons he"s the only one of them
> with councillor experience.
>
> Second, I would not endorse Pascal. Even though the deadline given was
> vague ("before Friday"), he did not follow the instructions but
> submitted his application directly to the secretariat, and we didn"t
> say we"d endorse everybody who asks - indeed we should not, but at
> least try to consider the applications" substance, even though time is
> short.
>
> I agree with Rafik that submitting more candidates is likely to lessen
> our changes of getting any of them through, and looking at the
> applications Pascal seems to me weakest of the three.
>
> Tapani
>
> (going offline for a week, so won"t be commenting on this any more)
>
> On Sat, Sep 09, 2017 at 01:04:25PM +0200, Dr. Tatiana Tropina (t.tropina at mpicc.de) wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ayden,
>>
>> thanks a lot. It seems that endorsing all three but proposing the
>> preferred order is the best way.
>>
>> All: I personally would rather put Julf as number one, but I am fine
>> with Ayden"s proposed order if everyone goes for this.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Tanya
>>
>>
>> On 09/09/17 12:58, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
>> > Hi Rafik,
>> >
>> > As we did not include a hard deadline in the email on Thursday, I
>> > suppose Pascal did submit his request for endorsement on time [at
>> > least by UTC timezone]. For that reason I support us endorsing his
>> > application.
>> >
>> > However, if it would help the SSC in their deliberations, I would
>> > propose that the preferred order of candidates from the NCSG be as
>> > follows:
>> >
>> > 1. Paul Rosenzweig
>> > 2. Julf Helsingius
>> > 3. Pascal Bekono
>> >
>> > Best wishes, Ayden
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> -------- Original Message --------
>> >> Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Request for NSCG endorsement -- GNSO
>> >> Liaison to the GAC
>> >> Local Time: 8 September 2017 11:18 PM
>> >> UTC Time: 8 September 2017 22:18
>> >> From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>> >> To: Dr. Tatiana Tropina <t.tropina at mpicc.de>
>> >> ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks, I see we have support to send the 2 names as endorsed to SSC.
>> >> We got an extra application lately and not sure that everyone has
>> >> time to review it.
>> >> there is no limit to send 3 names. however, I think that sending many
>> >> names will weaken their chances of those candidatures at SSC
>> >> deliberation since as Stakeholder group we are not championing
>> >> clearly for one. that won"t make NCSG representatives to SSC easier
>> >> either give them a clear guidance from their group.
>> >>
>> >> for now, I will send Julf and Paul applications by the deadline. if
>> >> other PC members weigh in and also support sending Pascal application
>> >> in coming hours, we can submit hs endorsment afterward.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >>
>> >> Rafik
>> >>
>> >> 2017-09-09 3:04 GMT+09:00 Dr. Tatiana Tropina <t.tropina at mpicc.de
>> >> <mailto:t.tropina at mpicc.de>>:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Rafik and all,
>> >>
>> >> I support.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Tanya
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 08/09/17 14:28, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> due to the time constraint and since we have 2 candidates, we
>> >>> can endorse both and send their applications to SSC. if there is
>> >>> no objection, I can submit them just before 23:59UTC.
>> >>> looking to hear from other PC members.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best,
>> >>>
>> >>> Rafik
>> >>>
>> >>> 2017-09-08 16:50 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com
>> >>> <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>>:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> I propose endorsing both. We are only asked, I believe, to
>> >>> support their candidacies — we have not been delegated the
>> >>> responsibility as PC of selecting the liaison.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best wishes,
>> >>>
>> >>> Ayden Férdeline
>> >>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 8:41 am, Arsène Tungali
>> >>> <arsenebaguma at gmail.com <mailto:arsenebaguma at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>> So how are we doing this? Do we vote by a formal poll or
>> >>>> are we just posting on here? ----------------- Arsène
>> >>>> Tungali, about.me/ArseneTungali
>> >>>> <http://about.me/ArseneTungali> +243 993810967
>> >>>> <tel:+243%20993%20810%20967> GPG: 523644A0 Goma, Democratic
>> >>>> Republic of Congo Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) > On
>> >>>> Sep 8, 2017, at 7:15 AM, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > >
>> >>>> Re-sending with the attachment. > > Tapani > > -----
>> >>>> Forwarded message from Paul Rosenzweig ----- > > Dear
>> >>>> Tapani (and Farzaneh as incoming Chair) > > I am writing to
>> >>>> request that you consider endorsing me to be the GNSO >
>> >>>> Liaison to the GAC. My current SOI is here: >
>> >>>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Paul+Rosenzweig+SOI
>> >>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Paul+Rosenzweig+SOI>
>> >>>> > > My completed application template follows: > >
>> >>>> APPLICATION TEMPLATE > > Name Paul Rosenzweig > Affiliation
>> >>>> The Heritage Foundation/Red Branch > Consulting -- part of
>> >>>> the NCSG > > Please provide an overview of your
>> >>>> experience/expertise with GNSO policy > development
>> >>>> processes: Since 2014, I have been an active > member of
>> >>>> the CCWG-A in both WS1 and WS2 regarding accountability
>> >>>> mechanisms > related to the ICANN transition. As such I
>> >>>> have participated in the full > gamut of related GNSO/NCSG
>> >>>> policy issue that are of applicability to that > context.
>> >>>> Given my legal background, I have particularly focused on
>> >>>> legal > issues -- viz, ICANN"s revised mission statement,
>> >>>> the new Independent Review > Process, and ongoing
>> >>>> considerations of jurisdictional issues. I have been, > and
>> >>>> remain, especially focused on areas where the influence of
>> >>>> the GAC seems > to reflect governmental interests that are
>> >>>> inconsistent with GNSO policy. > > Please provide an
>> >>>> overview of your Previous engagements in GNSO work in a >
>> >>>> leadership capacity: I have not had a previous opportunity
>> >>>> to serve in > the GNSO or NCSG in a leadership capacity.
>> >>>> This is the first instance in > which I have volunteered
>> >>>> for such a position. > > Please describe your familiarity
>> >>>> with GAC processes, including GAC > engagement in GNSO
>> >>>> policy development: As part of my work > with the CCWG-A I
>> >>>> came to be intimately familiar with GAC processes for >
>> >>>> engaging in GNSO policy development. I suspect that few in
>> >>>> the GNSO have > paid quite as much attention as I have to
>> >>>> the GAC"s rules of operation, its > definition of
>> >>>> consensus, and the ways in which it is permitted to
>> >>>> influence > ICANN policy. Indeed the changes to those
>> >>>> processes were one of the > particular focuses of my
>> >>>> interest in the CCWG-A and one of the reasons I was >
>> >>>> skeptical of the ultimate product of the CCWG and the
>> >>>> resulting changes to > ICANN"s methods for considering GAC
>> >>>> advice. I remain of the view that GAC > engagement in GNSO
>> >>>> policy development is essential but that it should be >
>> >>>> accomplished through established GAC-GNSO liaison
>> >>>> procedures and not through > extra-procedural fiat. By way
>> >>>> of example, > I have been vocal in my view that the GAC"s
>> >>>> intervention with the Board > regarding two letter second
>> >>>> level top level domains was procedurally > improper (and
>> >>>> also disappointed that the GNSO liaison to the GAC had not
>> >>>> > alerted the GNSO to this issue earlier. [And, though
>> >>>> neutrality is a > hallmark of a good liaison, I should also
>> >>>> make clear that I find GAC claims > that second level
>> >>>> two-letter domains should be restricted deeply >
>> >>>> unpersuasive and antithetical to policies that animate the
>> >>>> NCSG and the > GNSO]. > > Please provide any other
>> >>>> information that demonstrates your qualifications > for
>> >>>> this position: It is perhaps of relevance that I have a >
>> >>>> history of service in the US government and thus a
>> >>>> reasonable understanding > of the role of governments. In
>> >>>> the 2005-09 time period I twice served as > the Acting
>> >>>> Assistant Secretary for International Affairs at the
>> >>>> Department > of Homeland Security, and thus experience in
>> >>>> international diplomatic > contexts. I attach a full resume
>> >>>> for your consideration. > > I would be happy to answer any
>> >>>> further questions you or other members of the > NCSG might
>> >>>> have. > > Regards > Paul > > Paul Rosenzweig > Red Branch
>> >>>> Consulting, PLLC > 509 C St. NE > Washington, DC 20002 >
>> >>>> paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com
>> >>>> <mailto:paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com> > O: +1
>> >>>> (202) 547-0660 <tel:+1%20202-547-0660> > M: +1 (202)
>> >>>> 329-9650 <tel:+1%20202-329-9650> > VOIP: +1 (202) 738-1739
>> >>>> <tel:+1%20202-738-1739> > www.redbranchconsulting.com
>> >>>> <http://www.redbranchconsulting.com> >
>> >>>> www.paulrosenzweigesq.com
>> >>>> <http://www.paulrosenzweigesq.com> > My PGP Key: >
>> >>>> https://keys.mailvelope.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x9A830097CA066684
>> >>>> <https://keys.mailvelope.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x9A830097CA066684>
>> >>>> > > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > >
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