<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hi Ayden,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I double-checked, I couldn't find any additional application. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Rafik<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-09-09 21:37 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Hi,<br><br>It has been brought to my attention that there may have been a fourth candidate for our endorsement. Rafik, are you able to confirm this? If true - I am inclined to agree with Tapani that we might need to re-think our strategy as to who we endorse...</div><span class="m_3745702842432612177HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div class="m_3745702842432612177m_9105020187455118407protonmail_signature_block"><div class="m_3745702842432612177m_9105020187455118407protonmail_signature_block-user"><div>—Ayden <br></div></div><div class="m_3745702842432612177m_9105020187455118407protonmail_signature_block-proton m_3745702842432612177m_9105020187455118407protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div><br></div></font></span><blockquote class="m_3745702842432612177m_9105020187455118407protonmail_quote" type="cite"><span><div>-------- Original Message --------<br></div><div>Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Request for NSCG endorsement -- GNSO Liaison to the GAC<br></div></span><div><div class="m_3745702842432612177h5"><div>Local Time: 9 September 2017 12:33 PM<br></div><div>UTC Time: 9 September 2017 11:33<br></div><div>From: <a href="mailto:ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info" target="_blank">ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info</a><br></div><div>To: <a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Hi all,<br></div><div><br></div><div>I"m not sure we can put the candidates in order, but if we do, I would<br></div><div>also put Julf first. Among other reasons he"s the only one of them<br></div><div>with councillor experience.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Second, I would not endorse Pascal. Even though the deadline given was<br></div><div>vague ("before Friday"), he did not follow the instructions but<br></div><div>submitted his application directly to the secretariat, and we didn"t<br></div><div>say we"d endorse everybody who asks - indeed we should not, but at<br></div><div>least try to consider the applications" substance, even though time is<br></div><div>short.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I agree with Rafik that submitting more candidates is likely to lessen<br></div><div>our changes of getting any of them through, and looking at the<br></div><div>applications Pascal seems to me weakest of the three.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Tapani<br></div><div><br></div><div>(going offline for a week, so won"t be commenting on this any more)<br></div><div><br></div><div>On Sat, Sep 09, 2017 at 01:04:25PM +0200, Dr. Tatiana Tropina (<a href="mailto:t.tropina@mpicc.de" target="_blank">t.tropina@mpicc.de</a>) wrote:<br></div><div>> <br></div><div>> Hi Ayden,<br></div><div>> <br></div><div>> thanks a lot. It seems that endorsing all three but proposing the<br></div><div>> preferred order is the best way.<br></div><div>> <br></div><div>> All: I personally would rather put Julf as number one, but I am fine<br></div><div>> with Ayden"s proposed order if everyone goes for this.<br></div><div>> <br></div><div>> Cheers,<br></div><div>> <br></div><div>> Tanya<br></div><div>> <br></div><div>> <br></div><div>> On 09/09/17 12:58, Ayden Férdeline wrote:<br></div><div>> > Hi Rafik,<br></div><div>> ><br></div><div>> > As we did not include a hard deadline in the email on Thursday, I<br></div><div>> > suppose Pascal did submit his request for endorsement on time [at<br></div><div>> > least by UTC timezone]. For that reason I support us endorsing his<br></div><div>> > application.<br></div><div>> ><br></div><div>> > However, if it would help the SSC in their deliberations, I would<br></div><div>> > propose that the preferred order of candidates from the NCSG be as<br></div><div>> > follows:<br></div><div>> ><br></div><div>> > 1. Paul Rosenzweig<br></div><div>> > 2. Julf Helsingius<br></div><div>> > 3. Pascal Bekono<br></div><div>> ><br></div><div>> > Best wishes, Ayden<br></div><div>> ><br></div><div>> > <br></div><div>> ><br></div><div>> ><br></div><div>> >> -------- Original Message --------<br></div><div>> >> Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Request for NSCG endorsement -- GNSO<br></div><div>> >> Liaison to the GAC<br></div><div>> >> Local Time: 8 September 2017 11:18 PM<br></div><div>> >> UTC Time: 8 September 2017 22:18<br></div><div>> >> From: <a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><br></div><div>> >> To: Dr. Tatiana Tropina <<a href="mailto:t.tropina@mpicc.de" target="_blank">t.tropina@mpicc.de</a>><br></div><div>> >> ncsg-pc <<a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a>><br></div><div>> >><br></div><div>> >> Hi,<br></div><div>> >><br></div><div>> >> Thanks, I see we have support to send the 2 names as endorsed to SSC.<br></div><div>> >> We got an extra application lately and not sure that everyone has<br></div><div>> >> time to review it.<br></div><div>> >> there is no limit to send 3 names. however, I think that sending many<br></div><div>> >> names will weaken their chances of those candidatures at SSC<br></div><div>> >> deliberation since as Stakeholder group we are not championing<br></div><div>> >> clearly for one. that won"t make NCSG representatives to SSC easier<br></div><div>> >> either give them a clear guidance from their group.<br></div><div>> >><br></div><div>> >> for now, I will send Julf and Paul applications by the deadline. if<br></div><div>> >> other PC members weigh in and also support sending Pascal application<br></div><div>> >> in coming hours, we can submit hs endorsment afterward.<br></div><div>> >><br></div><div>> >> Best,<br></div><div>> >><br></div><div>> >> Rafik<br></div><div>> >><br></div><div>> >> 2017-09-09 3:04 GMT+09:00 Dr. Tatiana Tropina <<a href="mailto:t.tropina@mpicc.de" target="_blank">t.tropina@mpicc.de</a><br></div><div>> >> <mailto:<a href="mailto:t.tropina@mpicc.de" target="_blank">t.tropina@mpicc.de</a>>>:<br></div><div>> >><br></div><div>> >> Hi Rafik and all,<br></div><div>> >><br></div><div>> >> I support.<br></div><div>> >><br></div><div>> >> Cheers,<br></div><div>> >><br></div><div>> >> Tanya<br></div><div>> >><br></div><div>> >><br></div><div>> >> On 08/09/17 14:28, Rafik Dammak wrote:<br></div><div>> >>> Hi,<br></div><div>> >>><br></div><div>> >>> due to the time constraint and since we have 2 candidates, we<br></div><div>> >>> can endorse both and send their applications to SSC. if there is<br></div><div>> >>> no objection, I can submit them just before 23:59UTC.<br></div><div>> >>> looking to hear from other PC members.<br></div><div>> >>><br></div><div>> >>> Best,<br></div><div>> >>><br></div><div>> >>> Rafik<br></div><div>> >>><br></div><div>> >>> 2017-09-08 16:50 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a><br></div><div>> >>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>>:<br></div><div>> >>><br></div><div>> >>> Hi,<br></div><div>> >>><br></div><div>> >>> I propose endorsing both. We are only asked, I believe, to<br></div><div>> >>> support their candidacies — we have not been delegated the<br></div><div>> >>> responsibility as PC of selecting the liaison. <br></div><div>> >>><br></div><div>> >>> Best wishes,<br></div><div>> >>><br></div><div>> >>> Ayden Férdeline<br></div><div>> >>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile<br></div><div>> >>><br></div><div>> >>><br></div><div>> >>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 8:41 am, Arsène Tungali<br></div><div>> >>> <<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" target="_blank">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" target="_blank">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a><wbr>>> wrote:<br></div><div>> >>>> So how are we doing this? Do we vote by a formal poll or<br></div><div>> >>>> are we just posting on here? ----------------- Arsène<br></div><div>> >>>> Tungali, <a href="http://about.me/ArseneTungali" target="_blank">about.me/ArseneTungali</a><br></div><div>> >>>> <<a href="http://about.me/ArseneTungali" target="_blank">http://about.me/ArseneTungali</a><wbr>> <a href="tel:+243%20993%20810%20967" value="+243993810967" target="_blank">+243 993810967</a><br></div><div>> >>>> <tel:+243%20993%20810%20967> GPG: 523644A0 Goma, Democratic<br></div><div>> >>>> Republic of Congo Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) > On<br></div><div>> >>>> Sep 8, 2017, at 7:15 AM, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > ><br></div><div>> >>>> Re-sending with the attachment. > > Tapani > > -----<br></div><div>> >>>> Forwarded message from Paul Rosenzweig ----- > > Dear<br></div><div>> >>>> Tapani (and Farzaneh as incoming Chair) > > I am writing to<br></div><div>> >>>> request that you consider endorsing me to be the GNSO ><br></div><div>> >>>> Liaison to the GAC. My current SOI is here: ><br></div><div>> >>>> <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Paul+Rosenzweig+SOI" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/di<wbr>splay/gnsosoi/Paul+Rosenzweig+<wbr>SOI</a><br></div><div>> >>>> <<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Paul+Rosenzweig+SOI" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/d<wbr>isplay/gnsosoi/Paul+Rosenzweig<wbr>+SOI</a>><br></div><div>> >>>> > > My completed application template follows: > ><br></div><div>> >>>> APPLICATION TEMPLATE > > Name Paul Rosenzweig > Affiliation<br></div><div>> >>>> The Heritage Foundation/Red Branch > Consulting -- part of<br></div><div>> >>>> the NCSG > > Please provide an overview of your<br></div><div>> >>>> experience/expertise with GNSO policy > development<br></div><div>> >>>> processes: Since 2014, I have been an active > member of<br></div><div>> >>>> the CCWG-A in both WS1 and WS2 regarding accountability<br></div><div>> >>>> mechanisms > related to the ICANN transition. As such I<br></div><div>> >>>> have participated in the full > gamut of related GNSO/NCSG<br></div><div>> >>>> policy issue that are of applicability to that > context.<br></div><div>> >>>> Given my legal background, I have particularly focused on<br></div><div>> >>>> legal > issues -- viz, ICANN"s revised mission statement,<br></div><div>> >>>> the new Independent Review > Process, and ongoing<br></div><div>> >>>> considerations of jurisdictional issues. I have been, > and<br></div><div>> >>>> remain, especially focused on areas where the influence of<br></div><div>> >>>> the GAC seems > to reflect governmental interests that are<br></div><div>> >>>> inconsistent with GNSO policy. > > Please provide an<br></div><div>> >>>> overview of your Previous engagements in GNSO work in a ><br></div><div>> >>>> leadership capacity: I have not had a previous opportunity<br></div><div>> >>>> to serve in > the GNSO or NCSG in a leadership capacity.<br></div><div>> >>>> This is the first instance in > which I have volunteered<br></div><div>> >>>> for such a position. > > Please describe your familiarity<br></div><div>> >>>> with GAC processes, including GAC > engagement in GNSO<br></div><div>> >>>> policy development: As part of my work > with the CCWG-A I<br></div><div>> >>>> came to be intimately familiar with GAC processes for ><br></div><div>> >>>> engaging in GNSO policy development. I suspect that few in<br></div><div>> >>>> the GNSO have > paid quite as much attention as I have to<br></div><div>> >>>> the GAC"s rules of operation, its > definition of<br></div><div>> >>>> consensus, and the ways in which it is permitted to<br></div><div>> >>>> influence > ICANN policy. Indeed the changes to those<br></div><div>> >>>> processes were one of the > particular focuses of my<br></div><div>> >>>> interest in the CCWG-A and one of the reasons I was ><br></div><div>> >>>> skeptical of the ultimate product of the CCWG and the<br></div><div>> >>>> resulting changes to > ICANN"s methods for considering GAC<br></div><div>> >>>> advice. I remain of the view that GAC > engagement in GNSO<br></div><div>> >>>> policy development is essential but that it should be ><br></div><div>> >>>> accomplished through established GAC-GNSO liaison<br></div><div>> >>>> procedures and not through > extra-procedural fiat. By way<br></div><div>> >>>> of example, > I have been vocal in my view that the GAC"s<br></div><div>> >>>> intervention with the Board > regarding two letter second<br></div><div>> >>>> level top level domains was procedurally > improper (and<br></div><div>> >>>> also disappointed that the GNSO liaison to the GAC had not<br></div><div>> >>>> > alerted the GNSO to this issue earlier. [And, though<br></div><div>> >>>> neutrality is a > hallmark of a good liaison, I should also<br></div><div>> >>>> make clear that I find GAC claims > that second level<br></div><div>> >>>> two-letter domains should be restricted deeply ><br></div><div>> >>>> unpersuasive and antithetical to policies that animate the<br></div><div>> >>>> NCSG and the > GNSO]. > > Please provide any other<br></div><div>> >>>> information that demonstrates your qualifications > for<br></div><div>> >>>> this position: It is perhaps of relevance that I have a ><br></div><div>> >>>> history of service in the US government and thus a<br></div><div>> >>>> reasonable understanding > of the role of governments. In<br></div><div>> >>>> the 2005-09 time period I twice served as > the Acting<br></div><div>> >>>> Assistant Secretary for International Affairs at the<br></div><div>> >>>> Department > of Homeland Security, and thus experience in<br></div><div>> >>>> international diplomatic > contexts. I attach a full resume<br></div><div>> >>>> for your consideration. > > I would be happy to answer any<br></div><div>> >>>> further questions you or other members of the > NCSG might<br></div><div>> >>>> have. > > Regards > Paul > > Paul Rosenzweig > Red Branch<br></div><div>> >>>> Consulting, PLLC > 509 C St. NE > Washington, DC 20002 ><br></div><div>> >>>> <a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com" target="_blank">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsu<wbr>lting.com</a><br></div><div>> >>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com" target="_blank">paul.rosenzweig@redbra<wbr>nchconsulting.com</a>> > O: +1<br></div><div>> >>>> (202) 547-0660 <tel:+1%20202-547-0660> > M: +1 (202)<br></div><div>> >>>> 329-9650 <tel:+1%20202-329-9650> > VOIP: <a href="tel:+1%20202-738-1739" value="+12027381739" target="_blank">+1 (202) 738-1739</a><br></div><div>> >>>> <tel:+1%20202-738-1739> > <a href="http://www.redbranchconsulting.com" target="_blank">www.redbranchconsulting.com</a><br></div><div>> >>>> <<a href="http://www.redbranchconsulting.com" target="_blank">http://www.redbranchconsultin<wbr>g.com</a>> ><br></div><div>> >>>> <a href="http://www.paulrosenzweigesq.com" target="_blank">www.paulrosenzweigesq.com</a><br></div><div>> >>>> <<a href="http://www.paulrosenzweigesq.com" target="_blank">http://www.paulrosenzweigesq.<wbr>com</a>> > My PGP Key: ><br></div><div>> >>>> <a href="https://keys.mailvelope.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x9A830097CA066684" target="_blank">https://keys.mailvelope.com/pk<wbr>s/lookup?op=get&search=0x9A830<wbr>097CA066684</a><br></div><div>> >>>> <<a href="https://keys.mailvelope.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x9A830097CA066684" target="_blank">https://keys.mailvelope.com/p<wbr>ks/lookup?op=get&search=0x9A83<wbr>0097CA066684</a>><br></div><div>> >>>> > > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > ><br></div><div>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br></div><div>NCSG-PC mailing list<br></div><div><a href="mailto:NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is</a><br></div><div><a href="https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc" target="_blank">https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/ncsg-pc</a><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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