[NCSG-PC] Fwd: [council] FW: Community Resource Consultation

Sun Oct 8 00:22:14 EEST 2017

Hi Rafik,

> As policy committee, we can start working on some draft responses to the questionnaire to elicit comments from our membership when we share it in the list.

My first reaction is, I see this as an operational policy. Certainly when it comes to our positions on DNS policies -- whose recommendations have been developed and refined by the ICANN community through the various Supporting Organisations and influenced by the Advisory Committees -- wide consultation is imperative, but I do not think this is an issue that lends itself to a productive, far-reaching conversation with the membership.

Best wishes, Ayden

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [council] FW: Community Resource Consultation
> Local Time: 6 October 2017 5:35 AM
> UTC Time: 6 October 2017 04:35
> From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> To: Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
> Dr. Tatiana Tropina <t.tropina at mpicc.de>, ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
>
> Hi,
>
> I assume we will see more positions and perspectives from other groups in next council call (As it will be scheduled under AoB). We will be able to raise at the next NCSG Policy call with NCSG members. if we get some guidance there, we will be able to share some initial position from NCSG, if not we will share our personal thoughts for now.
> As policy committee, we can start working on some draft responses to the questionnaire to elicit comments from our membership when we share it in the list.
> anyone want to volunteer to start the drafting?
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2017-10-05 20:58 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
>
>> Hi Tanya,
>>
>> Yes, on the point you raised, we are aligned in our thinking. I think there needs to be a radical scaling back of certain programmes, with resources re-allocated to supporting those involved in activities which support the work that the community does.
>>
>> However, I also think there should be an element of need assessment used in the allocation of support. It seems bizarre to me that ICANN would fund the participation of certain stakeholders (primarily but not exclusively from the private sector) who otherwise have the capacity to be here -- and would be at the table anyway.
>>
>> Finally, I think it is worth reminding ICANN that economy-class travel is a chore, not a privilege, and requiring people to take the lowest cost flight of the day at the most inconvenient time is not great. Where travel is over long distances and involves multiple connections, spending an extra $50-100 a leg to get a ticket in a bucket that can be upgraded with miles would, I think, alleviate some of the discomfort on 2am departures.
>>
>> But these are just my views, I'm not sure if we have agreement on all of them.
>>
>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [council] FW: Community Resource Consultation
>>> Local Time: 5 October 2017 9:21 AM
>>> UTC Time: 5 October 2017 08:21
>>> From: t.tropina at mpicc.de
>>> To: ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is
>>>
>>> I agree with having a call or at least weighing in on the list.
>>>
>>> I have a strong position about returning tourism at ICANN -- I think there should be more thorough criteria for selection of returning fellows. I think most money should go to maintain those who really work in WGs or are really engaged in other ways. Not those who can't decide what to join even being at the ICANN meeting for 3rd-4th time.
>>>
>>> Ayden -- I would be happy to voice your concerns on the GNSO call in addition to mine -- whichever they are (I think we might have kind of similar views on the matter).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Tanya
>>>
>>> On 04/10/17 17:23, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
>>>
>>>> We need to discuss this — and before the Council call. Perhaps we can schedule a call for later this week. I do not think we have a common position just yet and I hope to be able to feed into your thoughts my strong views on this issue. Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Ayden
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: James M. Bladel<<a href=["mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com class="](mailto:jbladel at godaddy.comclass=) ?=" ">jbladel at godaddy.com>
>>>> Date: On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 5:19 pm
>>>> Subject: Fwd: [council] FW: Community Resource Consultation
>>>> To: GNSO Council List <[council at gnso.icann.org](mailto:council at gnso.icann.org%0A)>
>>>> Cc:
>>>>
>>>>> Councilors –
>>>>>
>>>>> Please see below for a note from Patrick Jones regarding ICANN travel support.  You may have already seen a similar note that was sent earlier to SG/C leaders.
>>>>>
>>>>> I propose that we discuss this during one of our upcoming meetings, either AOB on 12 OCT (our current agenda is fairly light), or our meeting in Abu Dhabi.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>
>>>>> J.
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> James Bladel
>>>>>
>>>>> GNSO Chair
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Patrick Jones [<patrick.jones at icann.org>](mailto:patrick.jones at icann.org)
>>>>> Date: Tuesday, October 3, 2017 at 16:37
>>>>> To: ["jbladel at godaddy.com "](mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com) [<jbladel at godaddy.com>](mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com)
>>>>> Cc: Marika Konings [<marika.konings at icann.org>](mailto:marika.konings at icann.org)
>>>>> Subject: Community Resource Consultation
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear James,
>>>>>
>>>>> As David Olive and Sally Costerton stated last week, the ICANN organization is beginning a consultation process on community resources. The aim of this effort is to solicit input from supporting organizations, advisory committees and stakeholder groups to update the ICANN Community Travel Support Guidelines.
>>>>>
>>>>> A copy of the consultation background document and questionnaire is attached again for your reference. Carlos Reyes and I are available between now and ICANN60 to discuss the consultation with the GNSO. We also welcome the opportunity to meet with the GNSO Council in Abu Dhabi. Individual notes are also being sent to the stakeholder group chairs within the GNSO.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please do not hesitate to contact us with any questions. We look forward to your input. This initial phase of the consultation runs through 17 November 2017.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrick L. Jones
>>>>>
>>>>> Senior Director, Global Stakeholder Engagement
>>>>>
>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers
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