<div>Hi Rafik,<br> <br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="protonmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">As policy committee, we can start working on some draft responses to the questionnaire to elicit comments from our membership when we share it in the list.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>My first reaction is, I see this as an operational policy. Certainly when it comes to our positions on DNS policies -- whose recommendations have been developed and refined by the ICANN community through the various Supporting Organisations and influenced by the Advisory Committees -- wide consultation is imperative, but I do not think this is an issue that lends itself to a productive, far-reaching conversation with the membership.<br></div><div><br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block"><div class="protonmail_signature_block-user"><div>Best wishes, Ayden <br></div></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite"><div>-------- Original Message --------<br></div><div>Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [council] FW: Community Resource Consultation<br></div><div>Local Time: 6 October 2017 5:35 AM<br></div><div>UTC Time: 6 October 2017 04:35<br></div><div>From: rafik.dammak@gmail.com<br></div><div>To: Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com><br></div><div>Dr. Tatiana Tropina <t.tropina@mpicc.de>, ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is <ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is><br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hi,<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I assume we will see more positions and perspectives from other groups in next council call (As it will be scheduled under AoB). We will be able to raise at the next NCSG Policy call with NCSG members. if we get some guidance there, we will be able to share some initial position from NCSG, if not we will share our personal thoughts for now.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">As policy committee, we can start working on some draft responses to the questionnaire to elicit comments from our membership when we share it in the list.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">anyone want to volunteer to start the drafting?<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Best,<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div>Rafik<br></div><div> <br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>2017-10-05 20:58 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></span>:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div><div>Hi Tanya,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Yes, on the point you raised, we are aligned in our thinking. I think there needs to be a radical scaling back of certain programmes, with resources re-allocated to supporting those involved in activities which support the work that the community does.<br></div><div><br></div><div>However, I also think there should be an element of need assessment used in the allocation of support. It seems bizarre to me that ICANN would fund the participation of certain stakeholders (primarily but not exclusively from the private sector) who otherwise have the capacity to be here -- and would be at the table anyway.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Finally, I think it is worth reminding ICANN that economy-class travel is a chore, not a privilege, and requiring people to take the lowest cost flight of the day at the most inconvenient time is not great. Where travel is over long distances and involves multiple connections, spending an extra $50-100 a leg to get a ticket in a bucket that can be upgraded with miles would, I think, alleviate some of the discomfort on 2am departures. <br></div><div><br></div><div>But these are just my views, I'm not sure if we have agreement on all of them.<br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="m_6599656085247845868protonmail_signature_block"><div class="m_6599656085247845868protonmail_signature_block-user"><div>Best wishes, Ayden <br></div></div><div class="m_6599656085247845868protonmail_signature_block-proton m_6599656085247845868protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="m_6599656085247845868protonmail_quote"><span class=""><div>-------- Original Message --------<br></div><div>Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [council] FW: Community Resource Consultation<br></div></span><div><div class="h5"><div>Local Time: 5 October 2017 9:21 AM<br></div><div>UTC Time: 5 October 2017 08:21<br></div><div>From: <a href="mailto:t.tropina@mpicc.de">t.tropina@mpicc.de</a><br></div><div>To: <a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><p>I agree with having a call or at least weighing in on the list.<br></p><p>I have a strong position about returning tourism at ICANN -- I
think there should be more thorough criteria for selection of
returning fellows. I think most money should go to maintain those
who really work in WGs or are really engaged in other ways. Not
those who can't decide what to join even being at the ICANN
meeting for 3rd-4th time. <br></p><p>Ayden -- I would be happy to voice your concerns on the GNSO call
in addition to mine -- whichever they are (I think we might have
kind of similar views on the matter).<br></p><p>Cheers,<br></p><p>Tanya <br></p><div><br></div><div class="m_6599656085247845868moz-cite-prefix">On 04/10/17 17:23, Ayden Férdeline
wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>We need to discuss this — and before the Council call.
Perhaps we can schedule a call for later this week. I do not
think we have a common position just yet and I hope to be able
to feed into your thoughts my strong views on this issue.
Thanks!<br></div><div><br></div><div>Ayden <br></div><div><br></div><div>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br></div><div>From: James M. Bladel<<a href=<a class="m_6599656085247845868moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.comclass=">"mailto:jbladel@godaddy.<wbr>com
class="</a> ?=" "><a class="m_6599656085247845868moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>><br></div><div>Date: On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 5:19 pm<br></div><div>Subject: Fwd: [council] FW: Community Resource Consultation<br></div><div>To: GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org%0A">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br></div><div>Cc: <br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="m_6599656085247845868protonmail_quote" type="cite"><div class="m_6599656085247845868WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Councilors
–</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Please
see below for a note from Patrick Jones regarding ICANN
travel support. You may have already seen a similar note
that was sent earlier to SG/C leaders.</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"><br>I propose that we discuss this during one of our upcoming
meetings, either AOB on 12 OCT (our current agenda is
fairly light), or our meeting in Abu Dhabi.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Thank you,</span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">J.</span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">------------------</span></span><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">James Bladel</span></span><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">GNSO Chair </span></span> <span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><br></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span class="colour" style="color:black">From: </span></b><span class="colour" style="color:black">Patrick Jones <a class="m_6599656085247845868moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:patrick.jones@icann.org"><patrick.jones@icann.org></a><br> <b>Date: </b>Tuesday, October 3, 2017 at 16:37 <br> <b>To: </b><a class="m_6599656085247845868moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com">"jbladel@godaddy.com "</a> <a class="m_6599656085247845868moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com"><jbladel@godaddy.com></a><br> <b>Cc: </b>Marika Konings <a class="m_6599656085247845868moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"><marika.konings@icann.org></a><br> <b>Subject: </b>Community Resource Consultation</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><br></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Dear
James,</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">As David
Olive and Sally Costerton stated last week, the ICANN
organization is beginning a consultation process on
community resources. The aim of this effort is to solicit
input from supporting organizations, advisory committees
and stakeholder groups to update the ICANN Community
Travel Support Guidelines. </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">A copy
of the consultation background document and questionnaire
is attached again for your reference. Carlos Reyes and I
are available between now and ICANN60 to discuss the
consultation with the GNSO. We also welcome the
opportunity to meet with the GNSO Council in Abu Dhabi.
Individual notes are also being sent to the stakeholder
group chairs within the GNSO.</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Please
do not hesitate to contact us with any questions. We look
forward to your input. This initial phase of the
consultation runs through 17 November 2017.</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Best
regards,</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Patrick</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span>-- </span><br></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span>Patrick L. Jones</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span>Senior Director, Global
Stakeholder Engagement</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span>Internet Corporation for
Assigned Names & Numbers</span><br></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><br></p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><pre>______________________________<wbr>_________________
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