[NCSG-PC] [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCSG comments on the SO/AC Accountability recommendations
Stephanie Perrin
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Fri May 26 16:38:51 EEST 2017
Sorry, I was in changing the document while this discussion was going on
. Still think the direct approach is better....recommend insertion in bylaws
Stephanie
On 2017-05-26 10:32, Matthew Shears wrote:
>
> Hi Ed - elegant solution. I'm good with that.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> On 26/05/2017 13:11, Edward Morris wrote:
>> Hi Matt,
>> Don't forget during WS2 Bylaw changes are fairly easy when they occur
>> as a result of a CCWG recommendation. If we want something in the
>> Bylaws linking SOAC accountability to the ATRT the time to do it is
>> now. If we want to be vague, something I agree with for the reasons
>> you mentioned, how about proposing:
>> Add to §4.6(ii) the following subsection:
>> (G) assessing and improving accountability procedures of the
>> Supporting Organisations and Advisory Committees.
>> The specifics, such as the recommendations in the report, could be
>> left to lesser mechanisms.
>> I do think it is important to get some mention in the Bylaws putting
>> SOAC accountability reviews within the remit of future ATRT's.
>> Ed
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From*: "Matthew Shears" <matthew at intpolicy.com>
>> *Sent*: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:13 PM
>> *To*: egmorris1 at toast.net, "ncsg-pc" <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>, "Rafik
>> Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> *Subject*: Re: [NCSG-PC] [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCSG comments on the SO/AC
>> Accountability recommendations
>>
>> Hi Ed
>>
>> I had wondered about this as well. I kind of left it vague because
>> while I totally agree with the sentiment I am just not sure about
>> incorporating the recommendations as a whole into the bylaws. If
>> they evolve/increase/decrease they will require an EC action
>> every-time. Could we add a line in the bylaws pointing to the
>> recommendations in the ATRT procedures and the broader issue of the
>> imperative of the SO/ACs working to strengthen their accountability,
>> etc.? Just not sure how it would be phrased.
>>
>> Best.
>>
>> On 26/05/2017 11:40, Edward Morris wrote:
>>> Hi Rafik,
>>> I support submission of these comments and thank those who have
>>> worked on the document.
>>> I would encourage the PC to consider changing the document a bit to
>>> support baking the SOAC "best practices" into the Bylaws as an
>>> addition to §4.6(b) rather than by adding them to the lesser (in
>>> terms of required adherence) ATRT procedures documentation. SOAC
>>> accountability is an essential and needed component of the overall
>>> ICANN accountability reforms and needs to be accorded the same
>>> weight as those accountability procedures applied to other parts of
>>> the ICANN ecosphere.
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Ed
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From*: "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>> *Sent*: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:48 AM
>>> *To*: "ncsg-pc" <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
>>> *Cc*: "Matthew Shears" <matthew at intpolicy.com>, "Marilia Maciel"
>>> <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>, "Milan, Stefania"
>>> <Stefania.Milan at eui.eu>, "Stephanie Perrin"
>>> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>, "Edward Morris"
>>> <egmorris1 at toast.net>, "Poncelet Ileleji" <pileleji at ymca.gm>,
>>> "Martin Pablo Silva Valent" <mpsilvavalent at gmail.com>, "Juan Manuel
>>> Rojas" <jumaropi at yahoo.com>, "Ayden Férdeline" <icann at ferdeline.com>
>>> *Subject*: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCSG comments on the SO/AC
>>> Accountability recommendations
>>> Hi,
>>> The deadline for submission is today. please review and send your vote.
>>> Best,
>>> Rafik
>>> 2017-05-25 22:50 GMT+09:00 Matthew Shears <matthew at intpolicy.com
>>> <mailto:matthew at intpolicy.com>>:
>>>
>>> Yes, final comments today, please. I will resolve in the AM.
>>>
>>> Matthew
>>>
>>> On 25/05/2017 14:36, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> this is a reminder to review the SO/AC accountability comment.
>>>> the deadline for submission is this Friday 26th May.
>>>> @Matt I assume that you can solve any comments in the document?
>>>> Best,
>>>> Rafik
>>>> 2017-05-23 8:40 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Matt,
>>>> thanks for drafting this. I think we can have Thursday as
>>>> deadline for getting all comments and doing edits in the
>>>> draft, in order for the policy committee to review and
>>>> endorse by Friday 26th May,
>>>> Best,
>>>> Rafik
>>>> 2017-05-22 18:31 GMT+09:00 Matthew Shears
>>>> <matthew at intpolicy.com <mailto:matthew at intpolicy.com>>:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> Another consultation with a short deadline.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for your inputs.
>>>>
>>>> Matthew
>>>>
>>>> On 19/05/2017 11:37, Matthew Shears wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>
>>>>> Another public comment - _due soon_: 26 May 2017 23:59 UTC
>>>>>
>>>>> Consultation page:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/soac-accountability-2017-04-14-en
>>>>> <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/soac-accountability-2017-04-14-en>
>>>>>
>>>>> Consultation document:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/ccwg-acct-ws2-draft-recs-improve-soac-accountability-29mar17-en.pdf
>>>>> <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/ccwg-acct-ws2-draft-recs-improve-soac-accountability-29mar17-en.pdf>
>>>>>
>>>>> First draft of some initial comments here:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FQ25RT9DHqTIBFlDKXpLAUWIC0EqE54p0YdT_7ysCxA/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FQ25RT9DHqTIBFlDKXpLAUWIC0EqE54p0YdT_7ysCxA/edit?usp=sharing>
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking forward to your thoughts in the doc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Matthew Shears matthew at intpolicy.com
>>>>> <mailto:matthew at intpolicy.com> +447712472987
>>>>> <tel:+44%207712%20472987> Skype:mshears
>>>>
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