[NCSG-PC] [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCSG comments on the SO/AC Accountability recommendations

Matthew Shears matthew at intpolicy.com
Fri May 26 17:32:37 EEST 2017


Hi Ed - elegant solution.  I'm good with that.

Thanks!


On 26/05/2017 13:11, Edward Morris wrote:
> Hi Matt,
> Don't forget during WS2 Bylaw changes are fairly easy when they occur 
> as a result of a CCWG recommendation. If we want something in the 
> Bylaws linking SOAC accountability to the ATRT  the time to do it is 
> now. If we want to be vague, something I agree with for the reasons 
> you mentioned, how about proposing:
> Add to §4.6(ii) the following subsection:
> (G) assessing and improving accountability procedures of the 
> Supporting Organisations and Advisory Committees.
> The specifics, such as the recommendations in the report, could be 
> left to lesser mechanisms.
> I do think it is important to get some mention in the Bylaws putting 
> SOAC accountability reviews within the remit of future ATRT's.
> Ed
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From*: "Matthew Shears" <matthew at intpolicy.com>
> *Sent*: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:13 PM
> *To*: egmorris1 at toast.net, "ncsg-pc" <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>, "Rafik 
> Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> *Subject*: Re: [NCSG-PC] [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCSG comments on the SO/AC 
> Accountability recommendations
>
> Hi Ed
>
> I had wondered about this as well.  I kind of left it vague because 
> while I totally agree with the sentiment I am just not sure about 
> incorporating the recommendations as a whole into the bylaws.  If they 
> evolve/increase/decrease they will require an EC action every-time.  
> Could we add a line in the bylaws pointing to the recommendations in 
> the ATRT procedures and the broader issue of the imperative of the 
> SO/ACs working to strengthen their accountability, etc.? Just not sure 
> how it would be phrased.
>
> Best.
>
> On 26/05/2017 11:40, Edward Morris wrote:
>> Hi Rafik,
>> I support submission of these comments and thank those who have 
>> worked on the document.
>> I would encourage the PC to consider changing the document a bit to 
>> support baking the SOAC  "best practices" into the Bylaws as an 
>> addition to §4.6(b) rather than by adding them to the lesser (in 
>> terms of required adherence) ATRT procedures documentation. SOAC 
>> accountability is an essential and needed component of the overall 
>> ICANN accountability reforms and needs to be accorded the same weight 
>> as those accountability procedures applied to other parts of the 
>> ICANN ecosphere.
>> Kind Regards,
>> Ed
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From*: "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> *Sent*: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:48 AM
>> *To*: "ncsg-pc" <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
>> *Cc*: "Matthew Shears" <matthew at intpolicy.com>, "Marilia Maciel" 
>> <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>, "Milan, Stefania" <Stefania.Milan at eui.eu>, 
>> "Stephanie Perrin" <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>, "Edward 
>> Morris" <egmorris1 at toast.net>, "Poncelet Ileleji" <pileleji at ymca.gm>, 
>> "Martin Pablo Silva Valent" <mpsilvavalent at gmail.com>, "Juan Manuel 
>> Rojas" <jumaropi at yahoo.com>, "Ayden Férdeline" <icann at ferdeline.com>
>> *Subject*: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCSG comments on the SO/AC 
>> Accountability recommendations
>> Hi,
>> The deadline for submission is today. please review and send your vote.
>> Best,
>> Rafik
>> 2017-05-25 22:50 GMT+09:00 Matthew Shears <matthew at intpolicy.com 
>> <mailto:matthew at intpolicy.com>>:
>>
>>     Yes, final comments today, please.  I will resolve in the AM.
>>
>>     Matthew
>>
>>     On 25/05/2017 14:36, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>     Hi,
>>>     this is a reminder to review the SO/AC accountability comment.
>>>     the deadline for submission is this Friday 26th May.
>>>     @Matt I assume that you can solve any comments in the document?
>>>     Best,
>>>     Rafik
>>>     2017-05-23 8:40 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>     <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>:
>>>
>>>         Hi Matt,
>>>         thanks for drafting this. I think we can have Thursday as
>>>         deadline for getting all comments and doing edits  in the
>>>         draft, in order for the policy committee to review and
>>>         endorse by Friday 26th May,
>>>         Best,
>>>         Rafik
>>>         2017-05-22 18:31 GMT+09:00 Matthew Shears
>>>         <matthew at intpolicy.com <mailto:matthew at intpolicy.com>>:
>>>
>>>             Hi all
>>>
>>>             Another consultation with a short deadline.
>>>
>>>             Thanks in advance for your inputs.
>>>
>>>             Matthew
>>>
>>>             On 19/05/2017 11:37, Matthew Shears wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             Hi all
>>>>
>>>>             Another public comment - _due soon_: 26 May 2017 23:59 UTC
>>>>
>>>>             Consultation page:
>>>>
>>>>             https://www.icann.org/public-comments/soac-accountability-2017-04-14-en
>>>>             <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/soac-accountability-2017-04-14-en>
>>>>
>>>>             Consultation document:
>>>>
>>>>             https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/ccwg-acct-ws2-draft-recs-improve-soac-accountability-29mar17-en.pdf
>>>>             <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/ccwg-acct-ws2-draft-recs-improve-soac-accountability-29mar17-en.pdf>
>>>>
>>>>             First draft of some initial comments here:
>>>>
>>>>             https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FQ25RT9DHqTIBFlDKXpLAUWIC0EqE54p0YdT_7ysCxA/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>             <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FQ25RT9DHqTIBFlDKXpLAUWIC0EqE54p0YdT_7ysCxA/edit?usp=sharing>
>>>>
>>>>             Looking forward to your thoughts in the doc.
>>>>
>>>>             Thanks
>>>>
>>>>             Matthew
>>>>
>>>>             -- Matthew Shears matthew at intpolicy.com
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