[NCSG-PC] Draft comment of CCNSO review deferral / Review&Endorsment
Poncelet Ileleji
pileleji at ymca.gm
Tue May 23 16:42:25 EEST 2017
Hello Rafik,
Thanks for sharing, and thanks Matthew for the great work, I definitely
endorse the revised comments also.
Kind Regards
Poncelet
On 23 May 2017 at 13:08, Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net> wrote:
> Hi Rafik,
>
> Much thanks to Matt. I'm not sure what happened to my revisions - Google
> docs and I don't seem to get along - but fully support submitting the
> revised comment ASAP.
>
> Best,
>
> Ed
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 23 May 2017, at 13:56, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> attached the latest version after Matt edits.
> I think it is time to submit, we are already over 3 days late from the
> deadline.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2017-05-23 20:20 GMT+09:00 Matthew Shears <matthew at intpolicy.com>:
>
>> I saw that Ed had said he had nuanced the language a little but did not
>> see the changes so I have added to small edits to the text.
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>> On 23/05/2017 13:15, Matthew Shears wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> These comments were not Stephanie's but mine. I am happy for them to be
>> removed from this doc in the interest of moving this forward but I do
>> believe that they should be addressed at some point in time.
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>> On 23/05/2017 01:22, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>
>> hi Ayden,
>>
>> Thanks for the review.
>> I think the comments are from Stephanie and would like to ask her to do
>> the edits asap. the comments are interesting but they are about the
>> question to board about its interpretation of bylaws, how much are they
>> critical to the current comment? I would wait for their resolution but we
>> are quite late for submission. It will be a pity to miss a public comment.
>>
>> I am asking all PC members to reply to this comment, it is quite urgent.
>> I understand we have support from Adyen, Ed, Matt. waiting for Stephanie to
>> confirm that she is happy with the current version and if she can resolve
>> her comments by suggesting wording. with no objection in next 12hours, I
>> would submit the comment
>>
>> We have also the CC2 comments to act on asap, and SO/AC accountability by
>> this Friday.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>>
>>
>> 2017-05-22 21:47 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
>>
>>> Thanks for this reminder, Rafik. I have made a few revisions to the
>>> language now, and support the submission of this comment. However, there
>>> are still some very good comments on the Google Doc that have not been
>>> resolved. Could the author of these comments kindly consider revising the
>>> Google Doc to take them into account?
>>>
>>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Draft comment of CCNSO review deferral /
>>> Review&Endorsment
>>> Local Time: May 22, 2017 1:03 AM
>>> UTC Time: May 22, 2017 12:03 AM
>>> From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>> To: Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net>
>>> Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>, ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> please review asap the current draft and check if you are fine with the
>>> wording. we should submit by Monday the comment.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> 2017-05-20 15:56 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Hi Ed,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the edits, waiting for other to go through and see if other
>>>> changes are needed or if they are fine with the current version. We can
>>>> send the comment this weekend after that.
>>>>
>>>> Best.
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>> On May 20, 2017 7:11 AM, "Edward Morris" <egmorris1 at toast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Rafik, Ayden, Stephanie, all,
>>>>
>>>> I just went into the document and tried to soften the language a bit:
>>>> unacceptable became inadvisable, I deleted a few of the harsher and perhaps
>>>> more perhaps unintentionally incendiary lines. I'm at work so it's a bit
>>>> difficult at the moment for me to do much more - I'd certainly welcome
>>>> further edits along those lines, if folks felt they were needed.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From*: "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>> *Sent*: Friday, May 19, 2017 10:56 PM
>>>> *To*: "Ayden Férdeline" <icann at ferdeline.com>
>>>> *Cc*: "ncsg-pc" <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
>>>> *Subject*: Re: [NCSG-PC] Draft comment of CCNSO review deferral /
>>>> Review&Endorsment
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ayden,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> I saw the comments but they look like questions for me and I cannot
>>>> really respond to them. I think that they were made by Stephanie, maybe she
>>>> can propose some edits there?
>>>> I am happy to delay and hold for few hours the submission if we can get
>>>> some wording and edits to be considered to change the tone.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>> 2017-05-20 6:49 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Rafik,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just a quick clarification; I support the sentiment of the comment,
>>>>> but as Stephanie alluded to, think it would be better if we are slightly
>>>>> more tactful in the comment that we send through. I also note that an
>>>>> anonymous commenter left some useful comments in the Google Doc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ayden Férdeline
>>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 10:45 pm, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Stephanie,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the comment,
>>>>> I can understand we have support from Ed, Matt, Ayden, Stephanie and
>>>>> myself for submitting the comment with no objection. also, support from
>>>>> Avri as an observer. I interpret this as having consensus to send the
>>>>> draft.
>>>>> if there is no strong objections in next hours, I will submit the
>>>>> comment on behalf of NCSG (document attached).
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-05-20 6:27 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin <
>>>>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it is worded too strongly, but I will support it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stephanie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2017-05-19 16:52, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so I see there is more endorsement for opposing the deferral and we
>>>>>> have the new draft here https://docs.google.com/d
>>>>>> ocument/d/1RILiprppZVCC2J9K1YnNXWU2wsMgqVPjDg1rDrWoQl4/edit
>>>>>> can you please express your position quickly so we can submit the
>>>>>> comment in due time. I will also share the new draft in NCSG list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2017-05-19 23:39 GMT+09:00 avri doria <avri at apc.org>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i also do not support postponement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> avri
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 19-May-17 04:51, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
>>>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > My initial reaction is, I do not support the postponement of
>>>>>>> mandatory
>>>>>>> > Reviews. If there is a compelling reason for why this should
>>>>>>> happen, I
>>>>>>> > would be interested in hearing it.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Many thanks,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Ayden
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>>> >> Subject: [NCSG-PC] Draft comment of CCNSO review deferral /
>>>>>>> >> Review&Endorsment
>>>>>>> >> Local Time: May 19, 2017 12:52 AM
>>>>>>> >> UTC Time: May 18, 2017 11:52 PM
>>>>>>> >> From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>>>>> >> To: ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Hi all,
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> I am sharing here the draft made by Arshad about ccNSO review
>>>>>>> >> deferral https://docs.google.com/docume
>>>>>>> nt/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxFqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>>> >> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXx
>>>>>>> FqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=sharing>.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> I understand that Ed objected to the content and explained his
>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>> >> of view on NCSG mailing list
>>>>>>> >> https://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A2=NCSG-DISCUSS;9ee8
>>>>>>> 0ad7.1705 .
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> I need to hear from others about their positions and also any
>>>>>>> >> suggestion on how to accommodate the 2 opposite views in the NCSG
>>>>>>> >> comment i.e what can be the consensual position for NCSG here.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> the deadline for submission is also the 19th May and so we have
>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>> >> than 24hours to review and suggest a way to move forward.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Best,
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Rafik
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>> >> From: *Rafik Dammak* <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>>>>> >> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>> >> Date: 2017-05-17 11:38 GMT+09:00
>>>>>>> >> Subject: Draft comment of CCNSO review deferral / Consultation
>>>>>>> >> To: "NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu
>>>>>>> >> <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>"
>>>>>>> >> <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu
>>>>>>> >> <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>>, ncsg-pc
>>>>>>> >> <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Hi all,
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Arshad kindly drafted and shared his draft for NCSG
>>>>>>> >> comment https://docs.google.com/docume
>>>>>>> nt/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxFqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>>> >> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXx
>>>>>>> FqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=sharing>.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Please review it, add your comments, express your support or not
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> >> order to assess what we have the common NCSG position on this
>>>>>>> topics
>>>>>>> >> and submitting in time. the deadline for submission is this Friday
>>>>>>> >> 19th May.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Best.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Rafik
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
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