[NCSG-PC] Draft comment of CCNSO review deferral / Review&Endorsment

Sat May 20 01:11:09 EEST 2017

Hi Rafik, Ayden, Stephanie, all,

 I just went into the document and tried to soften the language a bit: unacceptable became inadvisable, I deleted a few of the harsher and perhaps more perhaps unintentionally  incendiary lines. I'm at work so it's a bit difficult at the moment for me to do much more - I'd certainly welcome further edits along those lines,  if folks felt they were needed.

 Thanks,

 Ed

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 From: "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 10:56 PM
To: "Ayden Férdeline" <icann at ferdeline.com>
Cc: "ncsg-pc" <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Draft comment of CCNSO review deferral / Review&Endorsment   
     Hi Ayden,

 Thanks,
 I saw the comments but they look like questions for me and I cannot really respond to them. I think that they were made by Stephanie, maybe she can propose some edits there? 
 I am happy to delay and hold for few hours the submission if we can get some wording and edits to be considered to change the tone. 

Best,

 Rafik
   2017-05-20 6:49 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:   Hi Rafik,

 Just a quick clarification; I support the sentiment of the comment, but as Stephanie alluded to, think it would be better if we are slightly more tactful in the comment that we send through. I also note that an anonymous commenter left some useful comments in the Google Doc. 

 Best wishes,

 Ayden Férdeline
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On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 10:45 pm, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
   Hi Stephanie,

 Thanks for the comment, 
I can understand we have support from Ed, Matt, Ayden, Stephanie and myself for submitting the comment with no objection. also, support from Avri as an observer. I interpret this as having consensus to send the draft. 
 if there is no strong objections in next hours, I will submit the comment on behalf of NCSG (document attached).

 Best,

 Rafik

  2017-05-20 6:27 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>:    

I think it is worded too strongly, but I will support it.    

Stephanie        On 2017-05-19 16:52, Rafik Dammak wrote:
   Hi all,

 so  I see there is more endorsement for opposing the deferral and we have the new draft here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RILiprppZVCC2J9K1YnNXWU2wsMgqVPjDg1rDrWoQl4/edit
 can you please express your position quickly so we can submit the comment in due time. I will also share the new draft in NCSG list.

 Best,

 Rafik
  2017-05-19 23:39 GMT+09:00 avri doria <avri at apc.org>:  
i also do not support postponement.

avri

On 19-May-17 04:51, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My initial reaction is, I do not support the postponement of mandatory
> Reviews. If there is a compelling reason for why this should happen, I
> would be interested in hearing it.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Ayden
>
>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: [NCSG-PC] Draft comment of CCNSO review deferral /
>> Review&Endorsment
>> Local Time: May 19, 2017 12:52 AM
>> UTC Time: May 18, 2017 11:52 PM
>> From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>> To: ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am sharing here the draft made by Arshad about ccNSO review
>> deferral  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxFqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=sharing
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxFqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=sharing>.
>>
>> I understand that Ed objected to the content and explained his point
>> of view on NCSG mailing list
>> https://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A2=NCSG-DISCUSS;9ee80ad7.1705 .
>>
>> I need to hear from others about their positions and also any
>> suggestion on how to accommodate the 2 opposite views in the NCSG
>> comment i.e what can be the consensual position for NCSG here.
>>
>> the deadline for submission is also the 19th May and so we have less
>> than 24hours to review and suggest a way to move forward.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
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>> Date: 2017-05-17 11:38 GMT+09:00
>> Subject: Draft comment of CCNSO review deferral / Consultation
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>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Arshad kindly drafted and shared his draft for NCSG
>> comment https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxFqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=sharing
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxFqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=sharing>.
>>
>> Please review it, add your comments, express your support or not in
>> order to assess what we have the common NCSG position on this topics
>> and submitting in time. the deadline for submission is this Friday
>> 19th May.
>>
>> Best.
>>
>> Rafik
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