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<div>I just went into the document and tried to soften the language a bit: unacceptable became inadvisable, I deleted a few of the harsher and perhaps more perhaps unintentionally incendiary lines. I'm at work so it's a bit difficult at the moment for me to do much more - I'd certainly welcome further edits along those lines, if folks felt they were needed.</div>
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<div><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><b>From</b>: "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak@gmail.com><br />
<b>Sent</b>: Friday, May 19, 2017 10:56 PM<br />
<b>To</b>: "Ayden Férdeline" <icann@ferdeline.com><br />
<b>Cc</b>: "ncsg-pc" <ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is><br />
<b>Subject</b>: Re: [NCSG-PC] Draft comment of CCNSO review deferral / Review&Endorsment</span>
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<div>Hi Ayden,</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>I saw the comments but they look like questions for me and I cannot really respond to them. I think that they were made by Stephanie, maybe she can propose some edits there? </div>
<div>I am happy to delay and hold for few hours the submission if we can get some wording and edits to be considered to change the tone. </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2017-05-20 6:49 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></span>:
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<div>Just a quick clarification; I support the sentiment of the comment, but as Stephanie alluded to, think it would be better if we are slightly more tactful in the comment that we send through. I also note that an anonymous commenter left some useful comments in the Google Doc. </div>
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<div>Best wishes,</div>
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<div id="m_4830783447024047954protonmail_mobile_signature_block">Ayden Férdeline<br />
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On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 10:45 pm, Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Thanks for the comment, <br />
I can understand we have support from Ed, Matt, Ayden, Stephanie and myself for submitting the comment with no objection. also, support from Avri as an observer. I interpret this as having consensus to send the draft. </div>
<div class="gmail_extra">if there is no strong objections in next hours, I will submit the comment on behalf of NCSG (document attached).</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2017-05-20 6:27 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.<wbr />utoronto.ca</a>></span>:
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I think it is worded too strongly, but I will support it.</font></font></p>
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<div class="gmail_extra">so I see there is more endorsement for opposing the deferral and we have the new draft here <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RILiprppZVCC2J9K1YnNXWU2wsMgqVPjDg1rDrWoQl4/edit" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/d<wbr />ocument/d/1RILiprppZVCC2J9K1Yn<wbr />NXWU2wsMgqVPjDg1rDrWoQl4/edit</a></div>
<div class="gmail_extra">can you please express your position quickly so we can submit the comment in due time. I will also share the new draft in NCSG list.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2017-05-19 23:39 GMT+09:00 avri doria <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avri@apc.org" target="_blank">avri@apc.org</a>></span>:
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i also do not support postponement.<br />
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<span class="m_4830783447024047954m_-5436330229012445817gmail-">On 19-May-17 04:51, Ayden Férdeline wrote:<br />
> Hi,<br />
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> My initial reaction is, I do not support the postponement of mandatory<br />
> Reviews. If there is a compelling reason for why this should happen, I<br />
> would be interested in hearing it.<br />
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> Many thanks,<br />
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>> -------- Original Message --------<br />
>> Subject: [NCSG-PC] Draft comment of CCNSO review deferral /<br />
>> Review&Endorsment<br />
>> Local Time: May 19, 2017 12:52 AM<br />
>> UTC Time: May 18, 2017 11:52 PM<br />
>> From: <a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><br />
>> To: ncsg-pc <<a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a>><br />
>><br />
>> Hi all,<br />
>><br />
>> I am sharing here the draft made by Arshad about ccNSO review<br />
>> deferral <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxFqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docume<wbr />nt/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxF<wbr />qXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=s<wbr />haring</a></span><br />
>> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxFqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docum<wbr />ent/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXx<wbr />FqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=<wbr />sharing</a>>.<br />
<span class="m_4830783447024047954m_-5436330229012445817gmail-">>><br />
>> I understand that Ed objected to the content and explained his point<br />
>> of view on NCSG mailing list<br />
>> <a href="https://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A2=NCSG-DISCUSS;9ee80ad7.1705" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://listserv.syr.edu/scrip<wbr />ts/wa.exe?A2=NCSG-DISCUSS;9ee8<wbr />0ad7.1705</a> .<br />
>><br />
>> I need to hear from others about their positions and also any<br />
>> suggestion on how to accommodate the 2 opposite views in the NCSG<br />
>> comment i.e what can be the consensual position for NCSG here.<br />
>><br />
>> the deadline for submission is also the 19th May and so we have less<br />
>> than 24hours to review and suggest a way to move forward.<br />
>><br />
>> Best,<br />
>><br />
>> Rafik<br />
>><br />
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<span class="m_4830783447024047954m_-5436330229012445817gmail-">>> From: *Rafik Dammak* <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><br />
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><wbr />>><br />
>> Date: 2017-05-17 11:38 GMT+09:00<br />
>> Subject: Draft comment of CCNSO review deferral / Consultation<br />
>> To: "<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu</a></span><br />
<span class="m_4830783447024047954m_-5436330229012445817gmail-">>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.<wbr />syr.edu</a>>"<br />
>> <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu</a><br />
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.<wbr />syr.edu</a>>>, ncsg-pc<br />
>> <<a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a>><wbr />><br />
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>> Hi all,<br />
>><br />
>> Arshad kindly drafted and shared his draft for NCSG<br />
>> comment <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxFqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docume<wbr />nt/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxF<wbr />qXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=s<wbr />haring</a></span><br />
>> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxFqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docum<wbr />ent/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXx<wbr />FqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=<wbr />sharing</a>>.<br />
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>> Please review it, add your comments, express your support or not in<br />
>> order to assess what we have the common NCSG position on this topics<br />
>> and submitting in time. the deadline for submission is this Friday<br />
>> 19th May.<br />
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>> Best.<br />
>><br />
>> Rafik<br />
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