[NCSG-PC] African DNS market Study NCSG comment / Endorsement

Matthew Shears matthew at intpolicy.com
Sat May 13 11:50:47 EEST 2017


Thanks Rafik.


On 13/05/2017 00:57, Rafik Dammak wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> With no objections raised in PC, having PC members reviewing and 
> editing for proofreading and with support from the discussion in NCSG 
> list for sending a comment, I interpret that we have consensus and 
> that we shouldn't miss the opportunity to get our feedback included. I 
> will submit the statement and inform the ICANN staff in order to 
> include our suggestions.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2017-05-12 16:45 GMT+09:00 Matthew Shears <matthew at intpolicy.com 
> <mailto:matthew at intpolicy.com>>:
>
>     Hi - I have read through this quickly.  I have not read the
>     report.  I made a few small edits.  I think it is OK to send - I
>     am trusting that others who have read the report in detail have
>     reviewed.
>
>     Matthew
>
>
>     On 12/05/2017 00:20, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>     Thanks Adyen for the editing, the comment looks neat.
>>     the ICANN staff is planning to make its response report by
>>     18/19th May, if we want to have our comments included we should
>>     submit by this Friday
>>     I see that many of our African members agree with the content and
>>     I don't see any specific concern in the statement other than the
>>     confusion about sampling (i.e. 1400 domain) which was resolved
>>     already by removing it due to nonconsensus. I do interpret that
>>     we have support from NCSG list.
>>     we need PC members to go through the statement and give their
>>     opinion on Friday in order to submit in time.
>>
>>     Best,
>>
>>     Rafik
>>
>>     2017-05-12 5:10 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com
>>     <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>>:
>>
>>         I have just done some edits on the Google Doc too, adding
>>         some pleasantries to the introduction, fixing the formatting,
>>         and shortening a few sentences to make them easier to read.
>>         But I stopped on page 3, because I have not read the report
>>         and I can't comment on our arguments. Some of them are giving
>>         me pause. I don't know that I disagree with them, I just
>>         don't have the background to understand what we are asking
>>         versus what the report currently contains. I have deleted a
>>         few sentences from the first page which were not consistent
>>         with the draft report that I skim read, but I think the
>>         entire comment would benefit from review from someone who has
>>         actually, comprehensively, read it.
>>
>>         - Ayden
>>
>>
>>>         -------- Original Message --------
>>>         Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] African DNS market Study NCSG comment
>>>         / Endorsement
>>>         Local Time: 11 May 2017 4:35 AM
>>>         UTC Time: 11 May 2017 03:35
>>>         From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
>>>         <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
>>>         To: ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
>>>
>>>
>>>         I did an edit on the Google doc, just to smooth the
>>>         additions and different style of the various authors.  I
>>>         have no content to add, sorry....but please feel free to
>>>         edit if I have destroyed the sense of a given segment.  It
>>>         seems to me it could go now.
>>>
>>>         Stephanie
>>>
>>>
>>>         On 2017-05-10 21:45, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>>         Hi Dorothy,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         are you proposing those changes below to be included in the
>>>>         document as a response to Ayden?
>>>>         the document to be tidied-up and need someone to go through
>>>>         at least checking format and proofreading.
>>>>
>>>>         for submission, my suggestion was to do it by Friday so we
>>>>         should finalize review and endorsement by then. definitely,
>>>>         we shouldn't miss that extended deadline
>>>>
>>>>         Best,
>>>>
>>>>         Rafik
>>>>
>>>>         2017-05-10 23:43 GMT+09:00 dorothy g <dgdorothydg at gmail.com
>>>>         <mailto:dgdorothydg at gmail.com>>:
>>>>
>>>>             1.  Include country profiles
>>>>
>>>>             2.  Use global references for determining methodology
>>>>             of analysis
>>>>
>>>>             3.  Increase the emphasis on out reach and education to
>>>>             get greater buy in of stakeholders especially in
>>>>             response to questionnaires.
>>>>
>>>>             4.  Include scenarios for typology of countries. E.g.
>>>>             Nacent,  Mid-range, Mature,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             I am afraid this will be another case where we discuss
>>>>             and then end up not sending anything because of timing.
>>>>             How much more time are we giving this?  Who finalises?
>>>>             best
>>>>
>>>>             On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Rafik Dammak
>>>>             <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>>             <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 Hi Ayden,
>>>>
>>>>                 Thanks for the comments,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 2017-05-10 22:30 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline
>>>>                 <icann at ferdeline.com <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>>:
>>>>
>>>>                     Hi,
>>>>
>>>>                     I don't think this comment is ready for
>>>>                     submission just yet, but it is getting there. I
>>>>                     am very grateful to Dorothy for drafting it,
>>>>                     and to all those who have contributed comments.
>>>>                     Alas, I think we need to be more specific about
>>>>                     what we would like done differently next time
>>>>                     the study is conducted.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 can you make the suggetsion directly in the document?
>>>>
>>>>                     I am also not sure that the third point is
>>>>                     correct. It was not that 1,400 domains out of
>>>>                     4.1 million were analysed; it was that surveys
>>>>                     were sent to 1,400 respondents from six sectors
>>>>                     (some of whom were registrants). Even if it was
>>>>                     referring to domains, my hunch is that a sample
>>>>                     size of 1,400 domains probably is representative.
>>>>
>>>>                     I also am curious about the comment Anriette
>>>>                     made on-list about budget; I wonder if it was a
>>>>                     case of the external consultants who drafted
>>>>                     the report underbidding for the project, or if
>>>>                     ICANN paid a suitable amount for the work but
>>>>                     they did not pay the local contractors a
>>>>                     suitable amount for their contributions, or
>>>>                     something else altogether. I am not sure we
>>>>                     need to bring this into our comment but it is
>>>>                     interesting to me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 understood, but I am not sure that is the comment
>>>>                 is the right place for that while we can ask
>>>>                 details about the budgeting planned for those
>>>>                 studies and which criteria for informational purpose.
>>>>
>>>>                 Best,
>>>>
>>>>                 Rafik
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>                     -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>                     Subject: [NCSG-PC] African DNS market Study
>>>>>                     NCSG comment / Endorsement
>>>>>                     Local Time: May 10, 2017 6:01 AM
>>>>>                     UTC Time: May 10, 2017 5:01 AM
>>>>>                     From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>>>                     <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>>>                     To: ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is
>>>>>                     <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>>, dorothy g
>>>>>                     <dgdorothydg at gmail.com
>>>>>                     <mailto:dgdorothydg at gmail.com>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>                     we got several comments from NCSG members on
>>>>>                     the draft
>>>>>                     (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ee3gKApsPyKqDE70GSmTjxbxl0DejNLV3Jfry4dAt1Y/edit
>>>>>                     <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ee3gKApsPyKqDE70GSmTjxbxl0DejNLV3Jfry4dAt1Y/edit>)
>>>>>                     and I am really happy to see several
>>>>>                     fellow Africans participate in the review.
>>>>>                     I could get from ICANN staff to accept the
>>>>>                     submission of NCSG comment after the deadline
>>>>>                     and by this week. I would like to kindly ask
>>>>>                     you to review the draft for endorsement or not
>>>>>                     in order to submit it by this Friday.
>>>>>                     Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Best,
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>>                     ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>                     From: *Rafik Dammak* <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>>>                     <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>>>>>                     Date: 2017-05-05 18:40 GMT+09:00
>>>>>                     Subject: African DNS market Study NCSG comment
>>>>>                     / Call for comments
>>>>>                     To: "NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu
>>>>>                     <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>"
>>>>>                     <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu
>>>>>                     <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>>
>>>>>                     Cc: ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is
>>>>>                     <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Dororthy kindly drafted a NCSG comment (
>>>>>                     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ee3gKApsPyKqDE70GSmTjxbxl0DejNLV3Jfry4dAt1Y/edit
>>>>>                     <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ee3gKApsPyKqDE70GSmTjxbxl0DejNLV3Jfry4dAt1Y/edit>.
>>>>>                      ) about the African DNS Market Study
>>>>>                     (https://www.icann.org/public-comments/africa-dns-market-study-2017-03-11-en
>>>>>                     <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/africa-dns-market-study-2017-03-11-en>)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     While the dealdine is for the 5th May, I
>>>>>                     already sent a request to the ICANN staff
>>>>>                     telling them that we are going to make a late
>>>>>                     submission and asking for extension. I would
>>>>>                     like to ask members and in particular those
>>>>>                     from Africa to go through the draft in google
>>>>>                     doc for review and comments. We should submit
>>>>>                     this comment by next week after NCSG Policy
>>>>>                     Committee endorsment based on members feebdack
>>>>>                     here and in the document.
>>>>>                     It will be great of you can make comments and
>>>>>                     any suggestion for edits by Tuesday 9th May so
>>>>>                     we can resolve them before submission.
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Best,
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     ===================================================
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Draft 2016 African Domain Name System Market
>>>>>                     Study
>>>>>                     <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/africa-dns-market-study-2017-03-11-en>(ADNSMS)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     The NCSG welcomes the opportunity to comment
>>>>>                     on the Draft 2016 African Domain Name Market
>>>>>                     Study carried out by a consortium led by the
>>>>>                     South Africa Communications Forum.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Methodology
>>>>>
>>>>>                     This  is a first attempt to present a snapshot
>>>>>                     of the African Domain Name Market.  The report
>>>>>                     sets out clearly the data challenges that
>>>>>                     hampered analysis in conducting this baseline
>>>>>                     survey.  The study indicates that poor
>>>>>                     response levels (22% to the online survey)
>>>>>                     could have been affected by the length of the
>>>>>                     questionnaire, and the difficulty in getting
>>>>>                     responses for the full set of six specifically
>>>>>                     targeted questionnaires registrar, regulator
>>>>>                     etc per country. The report’s authors note
>>>>>                     that the survey questionnaire could have been
>>>>>                     streamlined. A Country DNS success index was
>>>>>                     developed by the authors to rank the health of
>>>>>                     African DNS markets.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Comment:  1. It would be good if the report
>>>>>                     made reference to other criteria for
>>>>>                     benchmarking used in other regions to support
>>>>>                     the choice of the criteria used in the DNS
>>>>>                     success index.
>>>>>
>>>>>                                   2. Full discussion of the
>>>>>                     methodological deficiencies and lessons learnt
>>>>>                     should be included in an annex to support the
>>>>>                     next iteration of the (ADNSMS)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Section 5 - Africa Rising
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Comment:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     1.
>>>>>
>>>>>                         In order to make cross-country comparisons
>>>>>                         more realistic it may be useful to look at
>>>>>                         the size of a given country’s economy and
>>>>>                         population in comparison to its existing
>>>>>                         DNS market. This is done for webpages on
>>>>>                         pages 85 & 86.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     2. Much of the information in this section can
>>>>>                     be found in other sources and could be put in
>>>>>                     annex.  The slimmed down version included in
>>>>>                     the main report could focus on ‘value
>>>>>                     addition’ to the main arguments and make use
>>>>>                     of the excellent summative graphics some of
>>>>>                     which are striking in their originality.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Section 6  Key Features of the African DNS Market
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Comment:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     1.
>>>>>
>>>>>                         This section provides  useful background
>>>>>                         information but it could benefit from some
>>>>>                         more rigor in making its economic
>>>>>                         arguments. These include the analysis of
>>>>>                         demand (section 6.3) and  the valuation of
>>>>>                         the African DNS industry (section 6.5) .
>>>>>                         In the first instance more specific cases
>>>>>                         should be given to support the arguments
>>>>>                         given for changes that would increase
>>>>>                         demand e.g. improved local hosting
>>>>>                         infrastructure. In the second instance
>>>>>                         valuing simply on the prices that have
>>>>>                         been fixed for service does not take into
>>>>>                         account the multiplier effects within the
>>>>>                         economy. Given the advice to drop prices
>>>>>                         and the lack of evidence of the resulting
>>>>>                         increase in uptake in all country markets,
>>>>>                         the current approach could result in
>>>>>                         reduced valuation. This is just to point
>>>>>                         out that the approach may benefit from a
>>>>>                         review.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     2.
>>>>>
>>>>>                         The detailed information on certain
>>>>>                         countries is one of the best features of
>>>>>                         this study.  It may be useful to present a
>>>>>                         country profile for each African country,
>>>>>                         a kind of summary flash card that would
>>>>>                         allow us to appreciate where information
>>>>>                         is lacking and which indicators will need
>>>>>                         to be tracked in each context.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Section 7.  Analysis of Domain Name Uptake
>>>>>                      Across the region
>>>>>
>>>>>                                         (see prior comment on
>>>>>                     methodology)
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Comment:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     1.
>>>>>
>>>>>                         Please see above request for country
>>>>>                         profiles for all countries
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     2.
>>>>>
>>>>>                         The table presenting the rankings in
>>>>>                         section 7.2 should be repositioned as it
>>>>>                         is currently split between 2 pages.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Section 8  Key success factors registries
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Section 9  - Growth Outlook
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     The part of this study that needs to be given
>>>>>                     more substance relates to the business models
>>>>>                     that will grow the African Domain Name System
>>>>>                     Market.  It is important that the study
>>>>>                     includes an in-depth treatment of this linked
>>>>>                     to key factors at the country context.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     The observatory is clearly necessary but the
>>>>>                     terms of reference for the study not only
>>>>>                     focused on the observation of what is
>>>>>                     happening but the deliberate intervention to
>>>>>                     speed  growth.  The study lists out factors
>>>>>                     but these are not put in the form of business
>>>>>                     models adapted to specific starting points.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     “The goal of this study is to identify and
>>>>>                     define the strengths and weaknesses in the
>>>>>                     industry ecosystem within the Africa region
>>>>>                     and develop recommendations on how to advance
>>>>>                     the industry and bring it closer to the
>>>>>                     opportunities available.”  From Section 1 in
>>>>>                     the ICANN request for comment.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Overall the study is an impressive piece of
>>>>>                     work given the void it comes to fill. It
>>>>>                     should inspire many others to systematic
>>>>>                     research on these issues.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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