[NCSG-PC] African DNS market Study NCSG comment / Endorsement

Rafik Dammak rafik.dammak at gmail.com
Sat May 13 02:57:49 EEST 2017 

Hi all,

With no objections raised in PC, having PC members reviewing and editing
for proofreading and with support from the discussion in NCSG list for
sending a comment, I interpret that we have consensus and that we shouldn't
miss the opportunity to get our feedback included.  I will submit the
statement and inform the ICANN staff in order to include our suggestions.

Best,

Rafik

2017-05-12 16:45 GMT+09:00 Matthew Shears <matthew at intpolicy.com>:

> Hi - I have read through this quickly.  I have not read the report.  I
> made a few small edits.  I think it is OK to send - I am trusting that
> others who have read the report in detail have reviewed.
>
> Matthew
>
> On 12/05/2017 00:20, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>
> Thanks Adyen for the editing, the comment looks neat.
> the ICANN staff is planning to make its response report by 18/19th May, if
> we want to have our comments included we should submit by this Friday
> I see that many of our African members agree with the content and I don't
> see any specific concern in the statement other than the confusion about
> sampling (i.e. 1400 domain) which was resolved already by removing it due
> to nonconsensus. I do interpret that we have support from NCSG list.
> we need PC members to go through the statement and give their opinion on
> Friday in order to submit in time.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2017-05-12 5:10 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
>
>> I have just done some edits on the Google Doc too, adding some
>> pleasantries to the introduction, fixing the formatting, and shortening a
>> few sentences to make them easier to read. But I stopped on page 3, because
>> I have not read the report and I can't comment on our arguments. Some of
>> them are giving me pause. I don't know that I disagree with them, I just
>> don't have the background to understand what we are asking versus what the
>> report currently contains. I have deleted a few sentences from the first
>> page which were not consistent with the draft report that I skim read, but
>> I think the entire comment would benefit from review from someone who has
>> actually, comprehensively, read it.
>>
>> - Ayden
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] African DNS market Study NCSG comment / Endorsement
>> Local Time: 11 May 2017 4:35 AM
>> UTC Time: 11 May 2017 03:35
>> From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
>> To: ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is
>>
>>
>> I did an edit on the Google doc, just to smooth the additions and
>> different style of the various authors.  I have no content to add,
>> sorry....but please feel free to edit if I have destroyed the sense of a
>> given segment.  It seems to me it could go now.
>>
>> Stephanie
>>
>> On 2017-05-10 21:45, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dorothy,
>>
>>
>> are you proposing those changes below to be included in the document as a
>> response to Ayden?
>> the document to be tidied-up and need someone to go through at least
>> checking format and proofreading.
>>
>> for submission, my suggestion was to do it by Friday so we should
>> finalize review and endorsement by then. definitely, we shouldn't miss that
>> extended deadline
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> 2017-05-10 23:43 GMT+09:00 dorothy g <dgdorothydg at gmail.com>:
>>
>> 1.  Include country profiles
>>>
>>> 2.  Use global references for determining methodology of analysis
>>>
>>> 3.  Increase the emphasis on out reach and education to get greater buy
>>> in of stakeholders especially in response to questionnaires.
>>>
>>> 4.  Include scenarios for typology of countries. E.g. Nacent,
>>>  Mid-range, Mature,
>>>
>>>
>>> I am afraid this will be another case where we discuss and then end up
>>> not sending anything because of timing.  How much more time are we giving
>>> this?  Who finalises?
>>> best
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ayden,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the comments,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2017-05-10 22:30 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think this comment is ready for submission just yet, but it is
>>>>> getting there. I am very grateful to Dorothy for drafting it, and to all
>>>>> those who have contributed comments. Alas, I think we need to be more
>>>>> specific about what we would like done differently next time the study is
>>>>> conducted.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> can you make the suggetsion directly in the document?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I am also not sure that the third point is correct. It was not that
>>>>> 1,400 domains out of 4.1 million were analysed; it was that surveys were
>>>>> sent to 1,400 respondents from six sectors (some of whom were registrants).
>>>>> Even if it was referring to domains, my hunch is that a sample size of
>>>>> 1,400 domains probably is representative.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also am curious about the comment Anriette made on-list about
>>>>> budget; I wonder if it was a case of the external consultants who drafted
>>>>> the report underbidding for the project, or if ICANN paid a suitable amount
>>>>> for the work but they did not pay the local contractors a suitable amount
>>>>> for their contributions, or something else altogether. I am not sure we
>>>>> need to bring this into our comment but it is interesting to me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> understood, but I am not sure that is the comment is the right place
>>>> for that while we can ask details about the budgeting planned for those
>>>> studies and which criteria for informational purpose.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>> Subject: [NCSG-PC] African DNS market Study NCSG comment / Endorsement
>>>>> Local Time: May 10, 2017 6:01 AM
>>>>> UTC Time: May 10, 2017 5:01 AM
>>>>> From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>>> To: ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>, dorothy g <dgdorothydg at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> we got several comments from NCSG members on the draft (
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ee3gKApsPyKqDE70GSmTjxb
>>>>> xl0DejNLV3Jfry4dAt1Y/edit) and I am really happy to see several
>>>>> fellow Africans participate in the review.
>>>>> I could get from ICANN staff to accept the submission of NCSG comment
>>>>> after the deadline and by this week. I would like to kindly ask you to
>>>>> review the draft for endorsement or not in order to submit it by this
>>>>> Friday.
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: 2017-05-05 18:40 GMT+09:00
>>>>> Subject: African DNS market Study NCSG comment / Call for comments
>>>>> To: "NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu" <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
>>>>> Cc: ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Dororthy kindly drafted a NCSG comment ( https://docs.google.com/docu
>>>>> ment/d/1ee3gKApsPyKqDE70GSmTjxbxl0DejNLV3Jfry4dAt1Y/edit.  ) about
>>>>> the African DNS Market Study (https://www.icann.org/public-
>>>>> comments/africa-dns-market-study-2017-03-11-en)
>>>>>
>>>>> While the dealdine is for the 5th May, I already sent a request to the
>>>>> ICANN staff telling them that we are going to make a late submission and
>>>>> asking for extension. I would like to ask members and in particular those
>>>>> from Africa to go through the draft in google doc for review and comments.
>>>>> We should submit this comment by next week after NCSG Policy Committee
>>>>> endorsment based on members feebdack here and in the document.
>>>>> It will be great of you can make comments and any suggestion for edits
>>>>> by Tuesday 9th May so we can resolve them before submission.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ===================================================
>>>>>
>>>>> Draft 2016 African Domain Name System Market Study
>>>>> <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/africa-dns-market-study-2017-03-11-en>
>>>>> (ADNSMS)
>>>>>
>>>>> The NCSG welcomes the opportunity to comment on the Draft 2016 African
>>>>> Domain Name Market Study carried out by a consortium led by the South
>>>>> Africa Communications Forum.
>>>>>
>>>>> Methodology
>>>>>
>>>>> This  is a first attempt to present a snapshot of the African Domain
>>>>> Name Market.  The report sets out clearly the data challenges that hampered
>>>>> analysis in conducting this baseline survey.  The study indicates that poor
>>>>> response levels (22% to the online survey) could have been affected by the
>>>>> length of the questionnaire, and the difficulty in getting responses for
>>>>> the full set of six specifically targeted questionnaires registrar,
>>>>> regulator etc per country. The report’s authors note that the survey
>>>>> questionnaire could have been streamlined.  A Country DNS success index was
>>>>> developed by the authors to rank the health of African DNS markets.
>>>>>
>>>>> Comment:  1. It would be good if the report made reference to other
>>>>> criteria for benchmarking used in other regions to support the choice of
>>>>> the criteria used in the DNS success index.
>>>>>
>>>>>               2.  Full discussion of the methodological deficiencies
>>>>> and lessons learnt should be included in an annex to support the next
>>>>> iteration of the (ADNSMS)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Section 5 - Africa Rising
>>>>>
>>>>> Comment:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    1.
>>>>>
>>>>>    In order to make cross-country comparisons more realistic it may
>>>>>    be useful to look at the size of a given country’s economy and population
>>>>>    in comparison to its existing DNS market.  This is done for webpages on
>>>>>    pages 85 & 86.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.  Much of the information in this section can be found in other
>>>>> sources and could be put in annex.  The slimmed down version included in
>>>>> the main report could focus on ‘value addition’ to the main arguments and
>>>>> make use of the excellent summative graphics some of which are striking in
>>>>> their originality.
>>>>>
>>>>> Section 6  Key Features of the African DNS Market
>>>>>
>>>>> Comment:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    1.
>>>>>
>>>>>    This section provides  useful background information but it could
>>>>>    benefit from some more rigor in making its economic arguments.  These
>>>>>    include the analysis of demand (section 6.3) and  the valuation of the
>>>>>    African DNS industry (section 6.5) . In the first instance more specific
>>>>>    cases should be given to support the arguments given for changes that would
>>>>>    increase demand e.g. improved local hosting infrastructure. In the second
>>>>>    instance valuing simply on the prices that have been fixed for service does
>>>>>    not take into account the multiplier effects within the economy. Given the
>>>>>    advice to drop prices and the lack of evidence of the resulting increase in
>>>>>    uptake in all country markets, the current approach could result in reduced
>>>>>    valuation. This is just to point out that the approach may benefit from a
>>>>>    review.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    1.
>>>>>
>>>>>    The detailed information on certain countries is one of the best
>>>>>    features of this study.  It may be useful to present a country profile for
>>>>>    each African country, a kind of summary flash card that would allow us to
>>>>>    appreciate where information is lacking and which indicators will need to
>>>>>    be tracked in each context.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Section 7.  Analysis of Domain Name Uptake  Across the region
>>>>>
>>>>>                     (see prior comment on methodology)
>>>>>
>>>>> Comment:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    1.
>>>>>
>>>>>    Please see above request for country profiles for all countries
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    1.
>>>>>
>>>>>    The table presenting the rankings in section 7.2 should be
>>>>>    repositioned as it is currently split between 2 pages.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Section 8  Key success factors registries
>>>>>
>>>>> Section 9  - Growth Outlook
>>>>>
>>>>> The part of this study that needs to be given more substance relates
>>>>> to the business models that will grow the African Domain Name System
>>>>> Market.  It is important that the study includes an in-depth treatment of
>>>>> this linked to key factors at the country context.
>>>>>
>>>>> The observatory is clearly necessary but the terms of reference for
>>>>> the study not only focused on the observation of what is happening but the
>>>>> deliberate intervention to speed  growth.  The study lists out factors but
>>>>> these are not put in the form of business models adapted to specific
>>>>> starting points.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> “The goal of this study is to identify and define the strengths and
>>>>> weaknesses in the industry ecosystem within the Africa region and develop
>>>>> recommendations on how to advance the industry and bring it closer to the
>>>>> opportunities available.”  From Section 1 in the ICANN request for comment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Overall the study is an impressive piece of work given the void it
>>>>> comes to fill. It should inspire many others to systematic research on
>>>>> these issues.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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