[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Request for confirmation of members - GNSO Standing Selection Committee
Robin Gross
robin at ipjustice.org
Mon Mar 20 21:54:49 EET 2017
While I appreciate the attempt to jump into the void, under the NCSG Charter, the NCSG Chair is the *only* person specifically excluded from filling the role of the NCSG PC Chair.
(See NCSG Charter 2.5.3 on NCSG PC Chair “The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role”.)
So what I think this situation means, is that the PC had better figure out how it wants to handle this asap (with those in the running recused from decision). Here is a chance for us to fill a gap in our processes by either getting a vice-chair fast, or specifying some other means to make this decision. But it will be up to the PC to make that decision.
Thanks,
Robin
> On Mar 20, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote:
>
> Hi Robin,
>
> Yes, Rafik is PC Chair, but he is also running for the position, and
> he just recused himself from the process. And as you may noticed I
> accepted his judgement on the call for volunteers.
>
> If we had a Vice Chair in the PC I would be only too happy to stay
> out, but we don't. So I assume it falls on me as the general
> all-purpose fallback executive. If the PC thinks otherwise, I will not
> object to any consensus decision that let's me off the hook. :-)
>
> Tapani
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 12:36:06PM -0700, Robin Gross (robin at ipjustice.org <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>) wrote:
>
>> Rafik is the PC Chair. I don’t think it is appropriate to attempt to circumvent his role and judgment on this PC appointment issue.
>>
>> Robin
>>
>>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Stephanie,
>>>
>>> While I agree with the general point about need of more people to
>>> share the workload, I do *not* think this is something easy and
>>> lightweight and safe and suitable for newcomers.
>>>
>>> There are *a lot* of new appointments coming with lots of candidates
>>> to assess, it would be very useful to be familiar with the types of
>>> working groups &c to understand what kind of candidates are best.
>>> This will be hard, ungrateful work with no perks, and I don't want to
>>> appoint people who'll stop showing up after they realize how hard it is.
>>>
>>> But three PC members suggesting a wider call for volunteers is enough
>>> to persuade me, I will send out a call for volunteers to ncsg-discuss.
>>>
>>> Tapani
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 02:47:20PM -0400, Stephanie Perrin (stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>>) wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think this is an excellent idea, because this is a job that people can do
>>>> even if they have not been thoroughly immersed in the policy issues and day
>>>> to day work of ICANN committees. We need to find a way to even out the
>>>> workload at ICANN, and attract people to get directly involved for
>>>> activities that are limited in scope. This is one such activity, there are
>>>> not going to be a ton of selection processes.
>>>>
>>>> As for reviewing the framework for this committee (which Ed and Susan
>>>> Kawaguchi worked on), that committee will separately have the task of
>>>> reviewing the efficiency and fairness of the process they devised, so it is
>>>> not really necessary for them to sit on it. I think we can safely bring in
>>>> new people, and really if the process is a good one, new people will be in
>>>> the best position to test that.
>>>>
>>>> Stephanie Perrin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2017-03-20 14:27, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I support extending the call to NCSG wider list to get more candidates
>>>>> and see if we can get more people putting their names and volunteer. I
>>>>> will be happy with more new folks to get involved in such process.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since 3 of current candidates are members of PC I think we should
>>>>> recuse ourselves and not participate in the selection process for
>>>>> appointing to SSC.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 20, 2017 6:05 PM, "Ayden Férdeline" <icann at ferdeline.com <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>
>>>>> <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com> <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> An internal deadline makes sense - and I'm glad it is still a few
>>>>> days away, as I have heard off-list from one NCUC member that they
>>>>> are considering putting their name forward. I will communicate
>>>>> this internal deadline to them. Might it be worth considering
>>>>> sending a call for nominations to the general NCSG list?
>>>>>
>>>>> I also note that the three slots are allocated to the NCSG, not to
>>>>> the NCUC or to NPOC. In the event that there are four or more
>>>>> nominations for the three slots, who is responsible for selecting
>>>>> our representatives, and how will the candidates be assessed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Ayden
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Request for confirmation of members -
>>>>>> GNSO Standing Selection Committee
>>>>>> Local Time: 20 March 2017 4:22 PM
>>>>>> UTC Time: 20 March 2017 16:22
>>>>>> From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>> <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>>>
>>>>>> To: ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is> <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>> <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is> <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Martin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That leaves us with the confortable situation of three volunteers for
>>>>>> three positions, if I understood correctly that Avri isn't available:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Poncelet, Ed and Rafik.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's still time though if someone else wants to volunteer or
>>>>>> nominate someone, but not much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Given that council's deadline is Monday, 27 March, let's make our
>>>>>> internal deadline Thursday, 23 March, at 23:59 UTC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That leaves us Friday and the weekend to make our decision in case
>>>>>> more candidates show up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tapani
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 01:06:33PM -0300, Martin Pablo Silva
>>>>>> Valent (mpsilvavalent at gmail.com <mailto:mpsilvavalent at gmail.com> <mailto:mpsilvavalent at gmail.com <mailto:mpsilvavalent at gmail.com>> <mailto:mpsilvavalent at gmail.com <mailto:mpsilvavalent at gmail.com> <mailto:mpsilvavalent at gmail.com <mailto:mpsilvavalent at gmail.com>>>)
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> I confirm that NPOCs will support Poncelet's nomination. He is
>>>>>> been a long
>>>>>>> time in icann and has high moral sense of integrity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Martin Silva
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 17 Mar 2017 08:06, "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will be glad to volunteer for the SSC.
>>>>>>>> I had experience in selection, reviewing applications etc with
>>>>>>>> ICANN nomcom when I was NCUC representative there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2017-03-16 22:53 GMT+09:00 Tapani Tarvainen
>>>>>> <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>> <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>>>>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> See below. We need to appoint three (3) members to the SSC.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Deadline is March 27 - there's not much time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Suggestions, volunteers?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tapani
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Forwarded message from Nathalie Peregrine <
>>>>>>>>> nathalie.peregrine at icann.org <mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org> <mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org <mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org>>
>>>>>> <mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org <mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org> <mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org <mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 15 March, the GNSO Council adopted the charter for the GNSO
>>>>>>>>> Standing Selection Committee (SSC) – see
>>>>>>>>> https://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/draft-standing-selection- <https://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/draft-standing-selection-> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/draft-standing-selection- <https://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/draft-standing-selection->>
>>>>>> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/draft-standing-selection- <https://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/draft-standing-selection-> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/draft-standing-selection- <https://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/draft-standing-selection->>>
>>>>>>>>> committee-15mar17-en.pdf[gnso.icann.org <http://gnso.icann.org/> <http://gnso.icann.org/ <http://gnso.icann.org/>>
>>>>>> <http://gnso.icann.org <http://gnso.icann.org/> <http://gnso.icann.org/ <http://gnso.icann.org/>>>]<https://urldefense <https://urldefense/> <https://urldefense/ <https://urldefense/>>.
>>>>>>>>> proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_drafts_ <http://proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_drafts_> <http://proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_drafts_ <http://proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_drafts_>>
>>>>>> <http://proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_drafts_ <http://proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_drafts_> <http://proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_drafts_ <http://proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_drafts_>>>
>>>>>>>>> draft-2Dstanding-2Dselection-2Dcommittee-2D15mar17-2Den.pdf&
>>>>>>>>> d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=
>>>>>>>>> PDd_FX3f4MVgkEIi9GHvVoUhbecsvLhgsyXrxgtbL10DTBs0i1jYiBM_uTSD
>>>>>>>>> zgqG&m=KmYsfcYHwH-JYXWIJ58L-ZnwETFBe1FrVJ8qghEsRV8&s=GmTt0n-
>>>>>>>>> 0Bp3olHk5awt9BtmGRrEZnY7TI9fF4Fnvcy4&e=>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The SSC is tasked, as requested by the GNSO Council, to 1),
>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>> applicable, prepare and issue calls for applications related
>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>> selection or nomination of candidates for ICANN structures
>>>>>> such as
>>>>>>>>> ICANN review teams as well as structures related to the
>>>>>> Empowered
>>>>>>>>> Community, 2) review and evaluate all relevant
>>>>>> applicants/candidates,
>>>>>>>>> 3) rank candidates and make selection/appointment
>>>>>> recommendations for
>>>>>>>>> review and approval by Council and 4) communicate selections
>>>>>> to all
>>>>>>>>> interested parties.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The membership structure of the SSC is as follows:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The SSC shall consist of a total of 9 members appointed as
>>>>>> follows:
>>>>>>>>> - One member appointed by each Stakeholder Group of the
>>>>>>>>> Contracted Party House;
>>>>>>>>> - One member appointed respectively from each of the Business
>>>>>>>>> Constituency, the Intellectual Property Constituency, and
>>>>>> the Internet
>>>>>>>>> Service Providers and Connectivity Providers Constituency;
>>>>>>>>> - Three members appointed by the Non-Commercial Stakeholder
>>>>>>>>> Group; and,
>>>>>>>>> - One member from one of the three Nominating-Committee
>>>>>>>>> appointees to the GNSO Council.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The GNSO Council has tasked the SSC to carry out the review and
>>>>>>>>> selection of GNSO endorsed candidates for the Registration
>>>>>> Directory
>>>>>>>>> Service Review Team for Council consideration at the latest
>>>>>> by its 20
>>>>>>>>> April 2017 meeting. Furthermore, the GNSO Council has tasked
>>>>>> the SSC
>>>>>>>>> to develop the criteria and the process for the selection of
>>>>>> the GNSO
>>>>>>>>> Representative to the Empowered Community for GNSO Council
>>>>>>>>> consideration by its June 2017 meeting.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your respective groups are requested to communicate their
>>>>>> member(s) to
>>>>>>>>> the SSC to the GNSO Secretariat
>>>>>>>>> (gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org> <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>>
>>>>>> <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org> <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>>>)<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org> <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>>
>>>>>> <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org> <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>>>)> by 27 March at the
>>>>>>>>> latest. A first meeting of the SSC will be scheduled for
>>>>>> Thursday 30
>>>>>>>>> March at 16.00 UTC.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marika Konings
>>>>>>>>> Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet
>>>>>> Corporation
>>>>>>>>> for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- End forwarded message -----
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