[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Request for confirmation of members - GNSO Standing Selection Committee
Tapani Tarvainen
ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info
Mon Mar 20 21:48:04 EET 2017
Hi Robin,
Yes, Rafik is PC Chair, but he is also running for the position, and
he just recused himself from the process. And as you may noticed I
accepted his judgement on the call for volunteers.
If we had a Vice Chair in the PC I would be only too happy to stay
out, but we don't. So I assume it falls on me as the general
all-purpose fallback executive. If the PC thinks otherwise, I will not
object to any consensus decision that let's me off the hook. :-)
Tapani
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 12:36:06PM -0700, Robin Gross (robin at ipjustice.org) wrote:
> Rafik is the PC Chair. I don’t think it is appropriate to attempt to circumvent his role and judgment on this PC appointment issue.
>
> Robin
>
> > On Mar 20, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Stephanie,
> >
> > While I agree with the general point about need of more people to
> > share the workload, I do *not* think this is something easy and
> > lightweight and safe and suitable for newcomers.
> >
> > There are *a lot* of new appointments coming with lots of candidates
> > to assess, it would be very useful to be familiar with the types of
> > working groups &c to understand what kind of candidates are best.
> > This will be hard, ungrateful work with no perks, and I don't want to
> > appoint people who'll stop showing up after they realize how hard it is.
> >
> > But three PC members suggesting a wider call for volunteers is enough
> > to persuade me, I will send out a call for volunteers to ncsg-discuss.
> >
> > Tapani
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 02:47:20PM -0400, Stephanie Perrin (stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>) wrote:
> >
> >> I think this is an excellent idea, because this is a job that people can do
> >> even if they have not been thoroughly immersed in the policy issues and day
> >> to day work of ICANN committees. We need to find a way to even out the
> >> workload at ICANN, and attract people to get directly involved for
> >> activities that are limited in scope. This is one such activity, there are
> >> not going to be a ton of selection processes.
> >>
> >> As for reviewing the framework for this committee (which Ed and Susan
> >> Kawaguchi worked on), that committee will separately have the task of
> >> reviewing the efficiency and fairness of the process they devised, so it is
> >> not really necessary for them to sit on it. I think we can safely bring in
> >> new people, and really if the process is a good one, new people will be in
> >> the best position to test that.
> >>
> >> Stephanie Perrin
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2017-03-20 14:27, Rafik Dammak wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I support extending the call to NCSG wider list to get more candidates
> >>> and see if we can get more people putting their names and volunteer. I
> >>> will be happy with more new folks to get involved in such process.
> >>>
> >>> Since 3 of current candidates are members of PC I think we should
> >>> recuse ourselves and not participate in the selection process for
> >>> appointing to SSC.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Rafik
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 20, 2017 6:05 PM, "Ayden Férdeline" <icann at ferdeline.com
> >>> <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> An internal deadline makes sense - and I'm glad it is still a few
> >>> days away, as I have heard off-list from one NCUC member that they
> >>> are considering putting their name forward. I will communicate
> >>> this internal deadline to them. Might it be worth considering
> >>> sending a call for nominations to the general NCSG list?
> >>>
> >>> I also note that the three slots are allocated to the NCSG, not to
> >>> the NCUC or to NPOC. In the event that there are four or more
> >>> nominations for the three slots, who is responsible for selecting
> >>> our representatives, and how will the candidates be assessed?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Ayden
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -------- Original Message --------
> >>>> Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Request for confirmation of members -
> >>>> GNSO Standing Selection Committee
> >>>> Local Time: 20 March 2017 4:22 PM
> >>>> UTC Time: 20 March 2017 16:22
> >>>> From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>>
> >>>> To: ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is> <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you Martin.
> >>>>
> >>>> That leaves us with the confortable situation of three volunteers for
> >>>> three positions, if I understood correctly that Avri isn't available:
> >>>>
> >>>> Poncelet, Ed and Rafik.
> >>>>
> >>>> There's still time though if someone else wants to volunteer or
> >>>> nominate someone, but not much.
> >>>>
> >>>> Given that council's deadline is Monday, 27 March, let's make our
> >>>> internal deadline Thursday, 23 March, at 23:59 UTC.
> >>>>
> >>>> That leaves us Friday and the weekend to make our decision in case
> >>>> more candidates show up.
> >>>>
> >>>> Tapani
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 01:06:33PM -0300, Martin Pablo Silva
> >>>> Valent (mpsilvavalent at gmail.com <mailto:mpsilvavalent at gmail.com> <mailto:mpsilvavalent at gmail.com <mailto:mpsilvavalent at gmail.com>>)
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Dear all,
> >>>>> I confirm that NPOCs will support Poncelet's nomination. He is
> >>>> been a long
> >>>>> time in icann and has high moral sense of integrity.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best,
> >>>>> Martin Silva
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 17 Mar 2017 08:06, "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> >>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> hi all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I will be glad to volunteer for the SSC.
> >>>>>> I had experience in selection, reviewing applications etc with
> >>>>>> ICANN nomcom when I was NCUC representative there.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Best Regards,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Rafik
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2017-03-16 22:53 GMT+09:00 Tapani Tarvainen
> >>>> <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>>>:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dear all,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> See below. We need to appoint three (3) members to the SSC.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Deadline is March 27 - there's not much time.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Suggestions, volunteers?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Tapani
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ----- Forwarded message from Nathalie Peregrine <
> >>>>>>> nathalie.peregrine at icann.org <mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org>
> >>>> <mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org <mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org>>> -----
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dear All,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 15 March, the GNSO Council adopted the charter for the GNSO
> >>>>>>> Standing Selection Committee (SSC) – see
> >>>>>>> https://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/draft-standing-selection- <https://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/draft-standing-selection->
> >>>> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/draft-standing-selection- <https://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/draft-standing-selection->>
> >>>>>>> committee-15mar17-en.pdf[gnso.icann.org <http://gnso.icann.org/>
> >>>> <http://gnso.icann.org <http://gnso.icann.org/>>]<https://urldefense <https://urldefense/>.
> >>>>>>> proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_drafts_ <http://proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_drafts_>
> >>>> <http://proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_drafts_ <http://proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_drafts_>>
> >>>>>>> draft-2Dstanding-2Dselection-2Dcommittee-2D15mar17-2Den.pdf&
> >>>>>>> d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=
> >>>>>>> PDd_FX3f4MVgkEIi9GHvVoUhbecsvLhgsyXrxgtbL10DTBs0i1jYiBM_uTSD
> >>>>>>> zgqG&m=KmYsfcYHwH-JYXWIJ58L-ZnwETFBe1FrVJ8qghEsRV8&s=GmTt0n-
> >>>>>>> 0Bp3olHk5awt9BtmGRrEZnY7TI9fF4Fnvcy4&e=>.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The SSC is tasked, as requested by the GNSO Council, to 1),
> >>>> where
> >>>>>>> applicable, prepare and issue calls for applications related
> >>>> to the
> >>>>>>> selection or nomination of candidates for ICANN structures
> >>>> such as
> >>>>>>> ICANN review teams as well as structures related to the
> >>>> Empowered
> >>>>>>> Community, 2) review and evaluate all relevant
> >>>> applicants/candidates,
> >>>>>>> 3) rank candidates and make selection/appointment
> >>>> recommendations for
> >>>>>>> review and approval by Council and 4) communicate selections
> >>>> to all
> >>>>>>> interested parties.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The membership structure of the SSC is as follows:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The SSC shall consist of a total of 9 members appointed as
> >>>> follows:
> >>>>>>> - One member appointed by each Stakeholder Group of the
> >>>>>>> Contracted Party House;
> >>>>>>> - One member appointed respectively from each of the Business
> >>>>>>> Constituency, the Intellectual Property Constituency, and
> >>>> the Internet
> >>>>>>> Service Providers and Connectivity Providers Constituency;
> >>>>>>> - Three members appointed by the Non-Commercial Stakeholder
> >>>>>>> Group; and,
> >>>>>>> - One member from one of the three Nominating-Committee
> >>>>>>> appointees to the GNSO Council.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The GNSO Council has tasked the SSC to carry out the review and
> >>>>>>> selection of GNSO endorsed candidates for the Registration
> >>>> Directory
> >>>>>>> Service Review Team for Council consideration at the latest
> >>>> by its 20
> >>>>>>> April 2017 meeting. Furthermore, the GNSO Council has tasked
> >>>> the SSC
> >>>>>>> to develop the criteria and the process for the selection of
> >>>> the GNSO
> >>>>>>> Representative to the Empowered Community for GNSO Council
> >>>>>>> consideration by its June 2017 meeting.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Your respective groups are requested to communicate their
> >>>> member(s) to
> >>>>>>> the SSC to the GNSO Secretariat
> >>>>>>> (gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>
> >>>> <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>>)<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>
> >>>> <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>>)> by 27 March at the
> >>>>>>> latest. A first meeting of the SSC will be scheduled for
> >>>> Thursday 30
> >>>>>>> March at 16.00 UTC.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Marika Konings
> >>>>>>> Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet
> >>>> Corporation
> >>>>>>> for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ----- End forwarded message -----
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