[NCSG-PC] Topics for meetings with RySG & RrSG?

[Kathy Kleiman]

Maybe. Don't we have a bylaw that says ICANN is to stay out of the 
content space?  We have never wanted ICANN to become the regulator of 
speech and content, and with the transition, I thought that we affirmed 
that. So we may be in a Catch-22: we don't want private agreements to 
bypass speech/expression protections, and this type of regulation does 
not belong within ICANN.

If that is the case, now what do we do?

Best, Kathy

On 2/27/2017 8:44 PM, Rafik Dammak wrote:
> Hi Ed,
>
> I was basically suggesting to bring it to ICANN space. we are in 
> violent agreement.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2017-02-28 10:41 GMT+09:00 Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net 
> <mailto:egmorris1 at toast.net>>:
>
>
>>
>>     with the regard to Healthy Domain Initiative and PIR's SCDRP, can
>>     we follow a more positive and proactive approach and asking them
>>     to get involved in more Multistakeholder fashion?
>
>     So more multi-stakeholder private agreements outside of ICANN,
>     meaning all we do here is compromise to set industry floors which
>     are then used to build maximalist protection policies threatening
>     free speech with no guarantee of due process or appropriate
>     privacy protection through private agreements with some sort of
>     multi-stakeholder veneer? No thanks. If the real action is going
>     to be the downmarket private agreements who in their right mind
>     will volunteer to do work in ICANN? This process is a direct
>     threat to the ICANN model with the logical end result being
>     progressives calling for government intervention to prevent
>     industry cartels from setting market conditions that threaten
>     every value the NCSG was created to protect. Need I suggest that
>     the day we have to call on the governments of the world to protect
>     our free speech rights online is the day there no longer is such a
>     thing. Of course when what NCSG member Rebecca McKinnon so
>     brilliantly called Facebookistan, when applied to governance of
>     social media by terms of service boilerplate agreements,  is
>     extended in a modified fashion to the entire dns there may be no
>     other option.
>
>     The process stinks, the policy stinks and this group needs to
>     stand up for true multi-stakeholder principles and demand industry
>     standards, floors and ceilings, be set inside ICANN, not outside
>     of it. Otherwise the Donuts - MPAA agreement is the beginning of
>     the end of this model of internet governance.
>
>     No compromise, no surrender.
>
>     Ed
>
>
>
>
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