[NCSG-PC] Topics for meetings with RySG & RrSG?

Rafik Dammak rafik.dammak at gmail.com
Tue Feb 28 03:44:18 EET 2017


Hi Ed,

I was basically suggesting to bring it to ICANN space. we are in violent
agreement.

Best,

Rafik

2017-02-28 10:41 GMT+09:00 Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net>:

>
>
> with the regard to Healthy Domain Initiative and PIR's SCDRP, can we
> follow a more positive and proactive approach and asking them to get
> involved in more Multistakeholder fashion?
>
>
> So more multi-stakeholder private agreements outside of ICANN, meaning all
> we do here is compromise to set industry floors which are then used to
> build maximalist protection policies threatening free speech with no
> guarantee of due process or appropriate privacy protection through private
> agreements with some sort of multi-stakeholder veneer? No thanks. If the
> real action is going to be the downmarket private agreements who in their
> right mind will volunteer to do work in ICANN? This process is a direct
> threat to the ICANN model with the logical end result being progressives
> calling for government intervention to prevent industry cartels from
> setting market conditions that threaten every value the NCSG was created to
> protect. Need I suggest that the day we have to call on the governments of
> the world to protect our free speech rights online is the day there no
> longer is such a thing. Of course when what NCSG member Rebecca McKinnon so
> brilliantly called Facebookistan, when applied to governance of social
> media by terms of service boilerplate agreements,  is extended in a
> modified fashion to the entire dns there may be no other option.
>
> The process stinks, the policy stinks and this group needs to stand up for
> true multi-stakeholder principles and demand industry standards, floors and
> ceilings, be set inside ICANN, not outside of it. Otherwise the Donuts -
> MPAA agreement is the beginning of the end of this model of internet
> governance.
>
> No compromise, no surrender.
>
> Ed
>
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