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    <p>Maybe. Don't we have a bylaw that says ICANN is to stay out of
      the content space?  We have never wanted ICANN to become the
      regulator of speech and content, and with the transition, I
      thought that we affirmed that. So we may be in a Catch-22: we
      don't want private agreements to bypass speech/expression
      protections, and this type of regulation does not belong within
      ICANN.  <br>
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    <p>If that is the case, now what do we do? <br>
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    <p>Best, Kathy<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/27/2017 8:44 PM, Rafik Dammak
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          <div class="gmail_extra">Hi Ed,</div>
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          <div class="gmail_extra">I was basically suggesting to bring
            it to ICANN space. we are in violent agreement.</div>
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          <div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div>
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          <div class="gmail_extra">Rafik</div>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">2017-02-28 10:41 GMT+09:00 Edward
            Morris <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                          the regard to Healthy Domain Initiative and
                          PIR's SCDRP, can we follow a more positive and
                          proactive approach and asking them to get
                          involved in more Multistakeholder fashion?<br>
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                    <span class="gmail-">So more multi-stakeholder
                      private agreements outside of ICANN, meaning all
                      we do here is compromise to set industry floors
                      which are then used to build maximalist protection
                      policies threatening free speech with no guarantee
                      of due process or appropriate privacy protection
                      through private agreements with some sort of
                      multi-stakeholder veneer? No thanks. If the real
                      action is going to be the downmarket private
                      agreements who in their right mind will volunteer
                      to do work in ICANN? This process is a direct
                      threat to the ICANN model with the logical end
                      result being progressives calling for government
                      intervention to prevent industry cartels from
                      setting market conditions that threaten every
                      value the NCSG was created to protect. Need I
                      suggest that the day we have to call on the
                      governments of the world to protect our free
                      speech rights online is the day there no longer is
                      such a thing. Of course when what NCSG member
                      Rebecca McKinnon so brilliantly called
                      Facebookistan, when applied to governance of
                      social media by terms of service boilerplate
                      agreements,  is extended in a modified fashion to
                      the entire dns there may be no other option.<br>
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                      The process stinks, the policy stinks and this
                      group needs to stand up for true multi-stakeholder
                      principles and demand industry standards, floors
                      and ceilings, be set inside ICANN, not outside of
                      it. Otherwise the Donuts - MPAA agreement is the
                      beginning of the end of this model of internet
                      governance. <br>
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                      No compromise, no surrender.<br>
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                      Ed</span></span></div>
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