[NCSG-PC] Update on GDPR

[Stephanie Perrin]

I am sorry, I am swamped with School work.  However, I have read Ayden's 
comment.  My own view is that while I like this approach, we need 
balance.  This user type is "miscreant" .  We need to have some balance 
to this, such as by providing a "consumer" profile.I have not thought 
that one through, it is mostly a bogus claim that a consumer checks 
whois to see if a person is operating a legit site.  Let us imagine a 
few examples:  a web site for cancer survivors, household repair tips, 
spiritual guidance tips, counselling for rape victims, etc.  In those 
instances, if there is no personal infomration provided, how would a 
consumer construe that?  WOuld they trust the website?  Frankly, I would 
never go to WHOIS to determine whether to trust a website, but others 
do,  We need to come up with a postion on this one....IMHO

cheers Steph


On 2017-08-28 9:47 PM, farzaneh badii wrote:
> Observer here: why is there no action from PC members? Please pay 
> attention to this some of you are avid privacy advocates outside of 
> ICANN. We need to action on this! It's just a matter of reading 
> endorsing or not endorsing what Ayden has, you don't have to do much.
>
> Farzaneh
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com 
> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Thanks Ayden,
>     we can try to agree on endorsing your comment.
>     @All please indicate if you want to endorse or not the comment.
>
>     Best,
>
>     Rafik
>
>
>     2017-08-28 19:52 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com
>     <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>>:
>
>         I am submitting this now in my personal capacity.
>
>         Best, Ayden
>
>
>>         -------- Original Message --------
>>         Subject: Re: Update on GDPR
>>         Local Time: 26 August 2017 4:09 PM
>>         UTC Time: 26 August 2017 15:09
>>         From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>         To: Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com
>>         <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>>
>>         ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is
>>         <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>>, Stephanie Perrin
>>         <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
>>         <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>>, Wendy Seltzer
>>         <wendy at seltzer.org <mailto:wendy at seltzer.org>>
>>
>>         Hi Ayden,
>>
>>         thanks for the info. I do think we should submit something.
>>         We wanted to participate in the process.
>>         To be honest, I didn't notice the consultation till it was
>>         mentioned by you and Stephanie in the policy call. I don't
>>         recall receiving an official communication from staff or
>>         seeing the proposal under usual public comment space. Staff
>>         is using the blog and new data protection space for
>>         communicating about the issue but it doesn't seem efficient.
>>         so let's review during the weekend and submit the comment if
>>         endorsed.
>>
>>         Best,
>>
>>         Rafik
>>
>>
>>         2017-08-26 22:45 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline
>>         <icann at ferdeline.com <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>>:
>>
>>             There is not much to report at this time. We have been
>>             asked to provide input on the dataflow matrix
>>             <https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-registration-dataflow-matrix-2017-07-24-en>,
>>             but have not done so. I find ALAC's contributions very
>>             troubling, and the others - from the likes of the IPC,
>>             and Europol - less surprising. The review period for this
>>             closed last Thursday, but I suspect if we email something
>>             in this weekend it will probably still be added to the
>>             matrix. My suggested input is here
>>             <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Fg2RvjsLobGAKXfTYhQm5YJQRzlIOuhNdZ2cBkFdynQ/edit?usp=sharing>;
>>             if there is support from the PC I will submit it on
>>             behalf of the NCSG, if not, I will submit it in my
>>             personal capacity.
>>
>>             Best wishes, Ayden Férdeline
>>
>>
>>>             -------- Original Message --------
>>>             Subject: Update on GDPR
>>>             Local Time: 18 August 2017 1:33 AM
>>>             UTC Time: 18 August 2017 00:33
>>>             From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>             To: ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is
>>>             <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>>, Stephanie Perrin
>>>             <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
>>>             <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>>, Ayden
>>>             Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com
>>>             <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>>, Wendy Seltzer
>>>             <wendy at seltzer.org <mailto:wendy at seltzer.org>>
>>>
>>>             Hi Stephanie, Ayden, Wendy,
>>>
>>>             We will have NCSG Policy Call next Tuesday. Do you have
>>>             any update you want share from the GDPR taskforce prior
>>>             or during the call?
>>>
>>>             Best,
>>>
>>>             Rafik
>>
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