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<p>I am sorry, I am swamped with School work. However, I have read
Ayden's comment. My own view is that while I like this approach,
we need balance. This user type is "miscreant" . We need to have
some balance to this, such as by providing a "consumer" profile.I
have not thought that one through, it is mostly a bogus claim that
a consumer checks whois to see if a person is operating a legit
site. Let us imagine a few examples: a web site for cancer
survivors, household repair tips, spiritual guidance tips,
counselling for rape victims, etc. In those instances, if there
is no personal infomration provided, how would a consumer construe
that? WOuld they trust the website? Frankly, I would never go to
WHOIS to determine whether to trust a website, but others do, We
need to come up with a postion on this one....IMHO</p>
<p>cheers Steph<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-08-28 9:47 PM, farzaneh badii
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there no action from PC members? Please pay attention to this
some of you are avid privacy advocates outside of ICANN. We
need to action on this! It's just a matter of reading
endorsing or not endorsing what Ayden has, you don't have to
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Rafik
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<div class="gmail_extra">Thanks Ayden,</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">we can try to agree on endorsing
your comment.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">@All please indicate if you want
to endorse or not the comment.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div>
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Ayden Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div>I am submitting this now in my personal
capacity.</div>
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<div>Subject: Re: Update on GDPR<br>
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<div>Local Time: 26 August 2017 4:09 PM<br>
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<div>UTC Time: 26 August 2017 15:09<br>
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<div>From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>To: Ayden Férdeline <<a
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Stephanie Perrin <<a
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href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"
target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoront<wbr>o.ca</a>>,
Wendy Seltzer <<a
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<div class="gmail_extra">thanks for the
info. I do think we should submit
something. We wanted to participate in
the process.<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">To be honest, I
didn't notice the consultation till it
was mentioned by you and Stephanie in
the policy call. I don't recall
receiving an official communication
from staff or seeing the proposal
under usual public comment space.
Staff is using the blog and new data
protection space for communicating
about the issue but it doesn't seem
efficient.<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">so let's review
during the weekend and submit the
comment if endorsed.<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Best,<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Rafik<br>
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Ayden Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div>There is not much to report
at this time. We have been
asked to provide input on the
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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title="dataflow matrix"
href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-registration-dataflow-matrix-2017-07-24-en"
target="_blank">dataflow
matrix</a>, but have not
done so. I find ALAC's
contributions very troubling,
and the others - from the
likes of the IPC, and Europol
- less surprising. The review
period for this closed last
Thursday, but I suspect if we
email something in this
weekend it will probably still
be added to the matrix. <a
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rel="nofollow" title="My
suggested input is here"
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Fg2RvjsLobGAKXfTYhQm5YJQRzlIOuhNdZ2cBkFdynQ/edit?usp=sharing"
target="_blank">My suggested
input is here</a>; if there
is support from the PC I will
submit it on behalf of the
NCSG, if not, I will submit it
in my personal capacity. <br>
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<div>Best wishes, Ayden
Férdeline <br>
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<div>Subject: Update on GDPR<br>
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<div>Local Time: 18 August
2017 1:33 AM<br>
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<div>UTC Time: 18 August
2017 00:33<br>
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<div>From: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com"
target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><br>
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<div>To: ncsg-pc <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is"
target="_blank">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a>>,
Stephanie Perrin <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"
target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoront<wbr>o.ca</a>>,
Ayden Férdeline <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>,
Wendy Seltzer <<a
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href="mailto:wendy@seltzer.org"
target="_blank">wendy@seltzer.org</a>><br>
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<div>Hi Stephanie, Ayden,
Wendy,<br>
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<div dir="auto">We will
have NCSG Policy Call
next Tuesday. Do you
have any update you want
share from the GDPR
taskforce prior or
during the call?<br>
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<div dir="auto">Best,<br>
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<div dir="auto">Rafik<br>
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