[NCSG-PC] Endorsement of NCSG Comment on GNSO operating procedures change
Stephanie Perrin
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Fri Aug 11 17:14:59 EEST 2017
I think it looks fine now. I endorse it!
cheers SP
On 2017-08-11 08:15, Matthew Shears wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I have added a brief comment on the role of the GNSO Council. Please
> review carefully.
>
> Note that the BC submission refers to this issue extensively.
>
> Matthew
>
>
> On 11/08/2017 03:33, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>> Hi Matt, Stephanie,
>>
>> can you please add the two suggested comments to the draft asap?
>> I see support for the draft but we should add those edits quickly.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> 2017-08-10 17:45 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
>> <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>>:
>>
>> I think we should add that. please also consider adding what I
>> mentioned in my previous email. DT had a debate and reached
>> consensus on many important issues which were contentious, mainly
>> participation of GNSO in the empowered community through the
>> council and the thresholds to reach decisions. As Stephanie
>> agreed to add something like that, I kindly ask her to just come
>> up with a once sentence which encompasses what I said in my
>> previous email since she knows how the council functions better
>> than I do.
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 4:37 AM, Rafik Dammak
>> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Matt,
>>
>> I do think we can add a similar line to our comment .
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>>
>> 2017-08-10 17:19 GMT+09:00 Matthew Shears
>> <matthew at intpolicy.com <mailto:matthew at intpolicy.com>>:
>>
>> I'm drawing it to the attention of the PC - the issue of
>> the role of Council was a contentious one in the DT with
>> the BC and other suggesting that the Council was
>> exceeding its role if it took on EC responsibilities.
>> NCSG and RySG were aligned on this seeing no issue with
>> Council assuming the role. My question was whether we
>> thought we should add a similar line on the role of
>> Council in our submission.
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>> On 10/08/2017 09:13, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>> Hi Matt,
>>>
>>> are you suggesting a change to the comment? do you have
>>> some wording to add?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> 2017-08-10 17:05 GMT+09:00 Matthew Shears
>>> <matthew at intpolicy.com <mailto:matthew at intpolicy.com>>:
>>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I draw your attention to this submission by the RySG:
>>>
>>> http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/comments-gnso-op-procedures-19jun17/attachments/20170807/1d703c9a/RySGpubliccomment-GNSOOperatingProceduresandICANNBylaws-0001.pdf
>>> <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/comments-gnso-op-procedures-19jun17/attachments/20170807/1d703c9a/RySGpubliccomment-GNSOOperatingProceduresandICANNBylaws-0001.pdf>
>>>
>>> They note the following which we may wish to emulate
>>> (at a minimum the first line I would have thought):
>>>
>>> /The RySG fully recognises the authority of the GNSO
>>> Council to speak on behalf of the GNSO as
>>> Decisional Participant in the Empowered Community.
>>> This is in line with current practice and
>>> working methods and respects the existing
>>> equilibrium within the GNSO’s structure. The RySG
>>> agrees that on this point no changes need to be made
>>> to the ICANN Bylaws in relation to the role
>>> and description of the GNSO Council.///
>>>
>>> Matthew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/08/2017 01:03, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> the deadline for submission is this Friday. I
>>>> attached the clean version for review. I understand
>>>> that Matt, Poncelet, Stephanie support the comment.
>>>> we need to hear from other PC members.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>> 2017-08-07 23:24 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin
>>>> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
>>>> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>>:
>>>>
>>>> I think that is a really good idea, as these
>>>> are important procedures, and we need to be
>>>> able to amend if required. Hard to anticipate
>>>> everything, in my view...
>>>>
>>>> SP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2017-08-07 08:49, farzaneh badii wrote:
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> I was on the DT group. I don't have the time
>>>>> to go through every single change and see if
>>>>> they accord with what we agreed on. If you
>>>>> want in the public comment we should ask that
>>>>> if later on during implementing the operating
>>>>> procedures we find out that
>>>>> changes recommended by DT for some reason
>>>>> are not reflected in the new GNSO operating
>>>>> procedures, GNSO should follow the DT advice
>>>>> in those circumstances and allow for the
>>>>> mistake to be corrected.
>>>>>
>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Stephanie
>>>>> Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
>>>>> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks fine to me. I don't have
>>>>> knowledge of or time to do the research on
>>>>> the issues at the moment, so I hope that
>>>>> those who do can catch things that need
>>>>> changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers Stephanie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2017-08-07 02:07, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the comment is quite straightforward and
>>>>>> supporting the changes outlined in the
>>>>>> public consultation.
>>>>>> we can have as the deadline for review
>>>>>> and endorsement the 9th August. I urge
>>>>>> councilors, in particular, to review the
>>>>>> changes since it concerns the operating
>>>>>> procedures.
>>>>>> Thanks, Matt again for the draft. I
>>>>>> resolved the edits made by Ayden. ant
>>>>>> proof-reading and review would be helpful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2017-08-05 6:33 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline
>>>>>> <icann at ferdeline.com
>>>>>> <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have made some minor alterations to
>>>>>> style, but added nothing of
>>>>>> substance. I hope someone with more
>>>>>> knowledge of this issue will be able
>>>>>> to contribute to our comment.
>>>>>> Submissions are due in six days time.
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Comment
>>>>>>> on GNSO operating procedures change
>>>>>>> Local Time: August 1, 2017 5:35 PM
>>>>>>> UTC Time: August 1, 2017 4:35 PM
>>>>>>> From: matthew at intpolicy.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:matthew at intpolicy.com>
>>>>>>> To: ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is
>>>>>>> <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>,
>>>>>>> farzaneh badii
>>>>>>> <farzaneh.badii at GMAIL.COM
>>>>>>> <mailto:farzaneh.badii at GMAIL.COM>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wanted to get this back at the top
>>>>>>> of the list of to-do's as time is
>>>>>>> running out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Appreciate the comments from some of
>>>>>>> the PC members but would welcome
>>>>>>> additional inputs, thoughts, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See google doc below.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 27/07/2017 03:08, Martin Pablo
>>>>>>> Silva Valent wrote:
>>>>>>>> Matt,
>>>>>>>> I don’t have any comment to do, I
>>>>>>>> agree with the statements and the
>>>>>>>> wording. Let me know if I can do
>>>>>>>> anything specific to help. Other
>>>>>>>> than that you have my support. Thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Martín
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2017, at 8:22 PM, Rafik
>>>>>>>>> Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the deadline for the public
>>>>>>>>> comment is the 10th of August, we
>>>>>>>>> have to finish consulting with
>>>>>>>>> NCSG members, review and
>>>>>>>>> endorsement prior to that. I
>>>>>>>>> suggest 8th August as our internal
>>>>>>>>> deadline.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-25 23:28 GMT+09:00
>>>>>>>>> Stefania Milan
>>>>>>>>> <stefania.milan at eui.eu
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:stefania.milan at eui.eu>>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Matt, thanks. What's the
>>>>>>>>> deadline for this? I am in
>>>>>>>>> transit (and in fact, on
>>>>>>>>> holiday), witch sketchy
>>>>>>>>> internet access and the doc
>>>>>>>>> doesn't open for me today
>>>>>>>>> (might be the poor connection...)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2017, at 9:17 AM,
>>>>>>>>> Matthew Shears
>>>>>>>>> <matthew at intpolicy.com
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:matthew at intpolicy.com>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Let me qualify the last
>>>>>>>>>> sentence - ICANN staff are
>>>>>>>>>> not adding new items in
>>>>>>>>>> addition to the work of the
>>>>>>>>>> DT, but rather adding
>>>>>>>>>> references to work done
>>>>>>>>>> previously.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 25/07/2017 16:05, Matthew
>>>>>>>>>> Shears wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Calling all PCers
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have started on the above
>>>>>>>>>>> public comment but am still
>>>>>>>>>>> going through the
>>>>>>>>>>> consultation docs. However,
>>>>>>>>>>> time marches on and we need
>>>>>>>>>>> to get this one underway.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So, please review the
>>>>>>>>>>> consultation docs here:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/gnso-op-procedures-2017-06-19-en
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/gnso-op-procedures-2017-06-19-en>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And make comments in the
>>>>>>>>>>> google doc here:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gydCJ3IFGsptk8BTYa8aQ5lF-ddk_Q9DWja7bZIgsiY/edit
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gydCJ3IFGsptk8BTYa8aQ5lF-ddk_Q9DWja7bZIgsiY/edit>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Note that ICANN staff have
>>>>>>>>>>> used this opportunity to
>>>>>>>>>>> include other changes that
>>>>>>>>>>> the DT did not discuss.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Matthew Shears
>>>>>>>>>>> matthew at intpolicy.com
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:matthew at intpolicy.com>
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