[NCSG-PC] Endorsement of NCSG Comment on GNSO operating procedures change
Matthew Shears
matthew at intpolicy.com
Fri Aug 11 15:15:35 EEST 2017
Hi
I have added a brief comment on the role of the GNSO Council. Please
review carefully.
Note that the BC submission refers to this issue extensively.
Matthew
On 11/08/2017 03:33, Rafik Dammak wrote:
> Hi Matt, Stephanie,
>
> can you please add the two suggested comments to the draft asap?
> I see support for the draft but we should add those edits quickly.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2017-08-10 17:45 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
> <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>>:
>
> I think we should add that. please also consider adding what I
> mentioned in my previous email. DT had a debate and reached
> consensus on many important issues which were contentious, mainly
> participation of GNSO in the empowered community through the
> council and the thresholds to reach decisions. As Stephanie agreed
> to add something like that, I kindly ask her to just come up with
> a once sentence which encompasses what I said in my previous email
> since she knows how the council functions better than I do.
>
> Farzaneh
>
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 4:37 AM, Rafik Dammak
> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> I do think we can add a similar line to our comment .
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
> 2017-08-10 17:19 GMT+09:00 Matthew Shears
> <matthew at intpolicy.com <mailto:matthew at intpolicy.com>>:
>
> I'm drawing it to the attention of the PC - the issue of
> the role of Council was a contentious one in the DT with
> the BC and other suggesting that the Council was exceeding
> its role if it took on EC responsibilities. NCSG and RySG
> were aligned on this seeing no issue with Council assuming
> the role. My question was whether we thought we should add
> a similar line on the role of Council in our submission.
>
> Matthew
>
>
> On 10/08/2017 09:13, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>> Hi Matt,
>>
>> are you suggesting a change to the comment? do you have
>> some wording to add?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> 2017-08-10 17:05 GMT+09:00 Matthew Shears
>> <matthew at intpolicy.com <mailto:matthew at intpolicy.com>>:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I draw your attention to this submission by the RySG:
>>
>> http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/comments-gnso-op-procedures-19jun17/attachments/20170807/1d703c9a/RySGpubliccomment-GNSOOperatingProceduresandICANNBylaws-0001.pdf
>> <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/comments-gnso-op-procedures-19jun17/attachments/20170807/1d703c9a/RySGpubliccomment-GNSOOperatingProceduresandICANNBylaws-0001.pdf>
>>
>> They note the following which we may wish to emulate
>> (at a minimum the first line I would have thought):
>>
>> /The RySG fully recognises the authority of the GNSO
>> Council to speak on behalf of the GNSO as
>> Decisional Participant in the Empowered Community.
>> This is in line with current practice and
>> working methods and respects the existing equilibrium
>> within the GNSO’s structure. The RySG
>> agrees that on this point no changes need to be made
>> to the ICANN Bylaws in relation to the role
>> and description of the GNSO Council.///
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/08/2017 01:03, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> the deadline for submission is this Friday. I
>>> attached the clean version for review. I understand
>>> that Matt, Poncelet, Stephanie support the comment.
>>> we need to hear from other PC members.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> 2017-08-07 23:24 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin
>>> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
>>> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>>:
>>>
>>> I think that is a really good idea, as these are
>>> important procedures, and we need to be able to
>>> amend if required. Hard to anticipate
>>> everything, in my view...
>>>
>>> SP
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2017-08-07 08:49, farzaneh badii wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I was on the DT group. I don't have the time to
>>>> go through every single change and see if they
>>>> accord with what we agreed on. If you want in
>>>> the public comment we should ask that if later
>>>> on during implementing the operating procedures
>>>> we find out that changes recommended by DT
>>>> for some reason are not reflected in the new
>>>> GNSO operating procedures, GNSO should follow
>>>> the DT advice in those circumstances and allow
>>>> for the mistake to be corrected.
>>>>
>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Stephanie
>>>> Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
>>>> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It looks fine to me. I don't have
>>>> knowledge of or time to do the research on
>>>> the issues at the moment, so I hope that
>>>> those who do can catch things that need
>>>> changes.
>>>>
>>>> cheers Stephanie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2017-08-07 02:07, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> the comment is quite straightforward and
>>>>> supporting the changes outlined in the
>>>>> public consultation.
>>>>> we can have as the deadline for review and
>>>>> endorsement the 9th August. I urge
>>>>> councilors, in particular, to review the
>>>>> changes since it concerns the operating
>>>>> procedures.
>>>>> Thanks, Matt again for the draft. I
>>>>> resolved the edits made by Ayden. ant
>>>>> proof-reading and review would be helpful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-08-05 6:33 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline
>>>>> <icann at ferdeline.com
>>>>> <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have made some minor alterations to
>>>>> style, but added nothing of substance.
>>>>> I hope someone with more knowledge of
>>>>> this issue will be able to contribute
>>>>> to our comment. Submissions are due in
>>>>> six days time. Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Comment
>>>>>> on GNSO operating procedures change
>>>>>> Local Time: August 1, 2017 5:35 PM
>>>>>> UTC Time: August 1, 2017 4:35 PM
>>>>>> From: matthew at intpolicy.com
>>>>>> <mailto:matthew at intpolicy.com>
>>>>>> To: ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is
>>>>>> <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>,
>>>>>> farzaneh badii
>>>>>> <farzaneh.badii at GMAIL.COM
>>>>>> <mailto:farzaneh.badii at GMAIL.COM>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wanted to get this back at the top of
>>>>>> the list of to-do's as time is
>>>>>> running out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Appreciate the comments from some of
>>>>>> the PC members but would welcome
>>>>>> additional inputs, thoughts, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See google doc below.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27/07/2017 03:08, Martin Pablo
>>>>>> Silva Valent wrote:
>>>>>>> Matt,
>>>>>>> I don’t have any comment to do, I
>>>>>>> agree with the statements and the
>>>>>>> wording. Let me know if I can do
>>>>>>> anything specific to help. Other
>>>>>>> than that you have my support. Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Martín
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2017, at 8:22 PM, Rafik
>>>>>>>> Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the deadline for the public comment
>>>>>>>> is the 10th of August, we have to
>>>>>>>> finish consulting with NCSG
>>>>>>>> members, review and endorsement
>>>>>>>> prior to that. I suggest 8th August
>>>>>>>> as our internal deadline.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2017-07-25 23:28 GMT+09:00 Stefania
>>>>>>>> Milan <stefania.milan at eui.eu
>>>>>>>> <mailto:stefania.milan at eui.eu>>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Matt, thanks. What's the
>>>>>>>> deadline for this? I am in
>>>>>>>> transit (and in fact, on
>>>>>>>> holiday), witch sketchy
>>>>>>>> internet access and the doc
>>>>>>>> doesn't open for me today
>>>>>>>> (might be the poor connection...)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2017, at 9:17 AM,
>>>>>>>> Matthew Shears
>>>>>>>> <matthew at intpolicy.com
>>>>>>>> <mailto:matthew at intpolicy.com>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let me qualify the last
>>>>>>>>> sentence - ICANN staff are not
>>>>>>>>> adding new items in addition
>>>>>>>>> to the work of the DT, but
>>>>>>>>> rather adding references to
>>>>>>>>> work done previously.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 25/07/2017 16:05, Matthew
>>>>>>>>> Shears wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Calling all PCers
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have started on the above
>>>>>>>>>> public comment but am still
>>>>>>>>>> going through the
>>>>>>>>>> consultation docs. However,
>>>>>>>>>> time marches on and we need
>>>>>>>>>> to get this one underway.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So, please review the
>>>>>>>>>> consultation docs here:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/gnso-op-procedures-2017-06-19-en
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/gnso-op-procedures-2017-06-19-en>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And make comments in the
>>>>>>>>>> google doc here:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gydCJ3IFGsptk8BTYa8aQ5lF-ddk_Q9DWja7bZIgsiY/edit
>>>>>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gydCJ3IFGsptk8BTYa8aQ5lF-ddk_Q9DWja7bZIgsiY/edit>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Note that ICANN staff have
>>>>>>>>>> used this opportunity to
>>>>>>>>>> include other changes that
>>>>>>>>>> the DT did not discuss.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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