[NCSG-PC] Endorsement of NCSG Comment on GNSO operating procedures change
Rafik Dammak
rafik.dammak at gmail.com
Fri Aug 11 05:33:31 EEST 2017
Hi Matt, Stephanie,
can you please add the two suggested comments to the draft asap?
I see support for the draft but we should add those edits quickly.
Best,
Rafik
2017-08-10 17:45 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:
> I think we should add that. please also consider adding what I mentioned
> in my previous email. DT had a debate and reached consensus on many
> important issues which were contentious, mainly participation of GNSO in
> the empowered community through the council and the thresholds to reach
> decisions. As Stephanie agreed to add something like that, I kindly ask her
> to just come up with a once sentence which encompasses what I said in my
> previous email since she knows how the council functions better than I do.
>
> Farzaneh
>
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 4:37 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Matt,
>>
>> I do think we can add a similar line to our comment .
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>>
>> 2017-08-10 17:19 GMT+09:00 Matthew Shears <matthew at intpolicy.com>:
>>
>>> I'm drawing it to the attention of the PC - the issue of the role of
>>> Council was a contentious one in the DT with the BC and other suggesting
>>> that the Council was exceeding its role if it took on EC responsibilities.
>>> NCSG and RySG were aligned on this seeing no issue with Council assuming
>>> the role. My question was whether we thought we should add a similar line
>>> on the role of Council in our submission.
>>>
>>> Matthew
>>>
>>> On 10/08/2017 09:13, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Matt,
>>>
>>> are you suggesting a change to the comment? do you have some wording to
>>> add?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> 2017-08-10 17:05 GMT+09:00 Matthew Shears <matthew at intpolicy.com>:
>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> I draw your attention to this submission by the RySG:
>>>>
>>>> http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/comments-gnso-op-procedures-19
>>>> jun17/attachments/20170807/1d703c9a/RySGpubliccomment-GNSOOp
>>>> eratingProceduresandICANNBylaws-0001.pdf
>>>>
>>>> They note the following which we may wish to emulate (at a minimum the
>>>> first line I would have thought):
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *The RySG fully recognises the authority of the GNSO Council to speak
>>>> on behalf of the GNSO as Decisional Participant in the Empowered Community.
>>>> This is in line with current practice and working methods and respects the
>>>> existing equilibrium within the GNSO’s structure. The RySG agrees that on
>>>> this point no changes need to be made to the ICANN Bylaws in relation to
>>>> the role and description of the GNSO Council.*
>>>> Matthew
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/08/2017 01:03, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> the deadline for submission is this Friday. I attached the clean
>>>> version for review. I understand that Matt, Poncelet, Stephanie support the
>>>> comment. we need to hear from other PC members.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>> 2017-08-07 23:24 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin <
>>>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>:
>>>>
>>>>> I think that is a really good idea, as these are important procedures,
>>>>> and we need to be able to amend if required. Hard to anticipate
>>>>> everything, in my view...
>>>>>
>>>>> SP
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2017-08-07 08:49, farzaneh badii wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> I was on the DT group. I don't have the time to go through every
>>>>> single change and see if they accord with what we agreed on. If you want in
>>>>> the public comment we should ask that if later on during implementing the
>>>>> operating procedures we find out that changes recommended by DT for
>>>>> some reason are not reflected in the new GNSO operating procedures, GNSO
>>>>> should follow the DT advice in those circumstances and allow for the
>>>>> mistake to be corrected.
>>>>>
>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Stephanie Perrin <
>>>>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It looks fine to me. I don't have knowledge of or time to do the
>>>>>> research on the issues at the moment, so I hope that those who do can catch
>>>>>> things that need changes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers Stephanie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2017-08-07 02:07, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the comment is quite straightforward and supporting the changes
>>>>>> outlined in the public consultation.
>>>>>> we can have as the deadline for review and endorsement the 9th
>>>>>> August. I urge councilors, in particular, to review the changes since it
>>>>>> concerns the operating procedures.
>>>>>> Thanks, Matt again for the draft. I resolved the edits made by Ayden.
>>>>>> ant proof-reading and review would be helpful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2017-08-05 6:33 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have made some minor alterations to style, but added nothing of
>>>>>>> substance. I hope someone with more knowledge of this issue will be able to
>>>>>>> contribute to our comment. Submissions are due in six days time. Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Comment on GNSO operating procedures
>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>> Local Time: August 1, 2017 5:35 PM
>>>>>>> UTC Time: August 1, 2017 4:35 PM
>>>>>>> From: matthew at intpolicy.com
>>>>>>> To: ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at GMAIL.COM>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wanted to get this back at the top of the list of to-do's as time is
>>>>>>> running out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Appreciate the comments from some of the PC members but would
>>>>>>> welcome additional inputs, thoughts, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See google doc below.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 27/07/2017 03:08, Martin Pablo Silva Valent wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Matt,
>>>>>>> I don’t have any comment to do, I agree with the statements and the
>>>>>>> wording. Let me know if I can do anything specific to help. Other than that
>>>>>>> you have my support. Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Martín
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2017, at 8:22 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the deadline for the public comment is the 10th of August, we have
>>>>>>> to finish consulting with NCSG members, review and endorsement prior to
>>>>>>> that. I suggest 8th August as our internal deadline.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2017-07-25 23:28 GMT+09:00 Stefania Milan <stefania.milan at eui.eu>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Matt, thanks. What's the deadline for this? I am in transit (and
>>>>>>>> in fact, on holiday), witch sketchy internet access and the doc doesn't
>>>>>>>> open for me today (might be the poor connection...)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Matthew Shears <matthew at intpolicy.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let me qualify the last sentence - ICANN staff are not adding new
>>>>>>>> items in addition to the work of the DT, but rather adding references to
>>>>>>>> work done previously.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 25/07/2017 16:05, Matthew Shears wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Calling all PCers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have started on the above public comment but am still going
>>>>>>>> through the consultation docs. However, time marches on and we need to get
>>>>>>>> this one underway.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, please review the consultation docs here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/gnso-op-procedures-201
>>>>>>>> 7-06-19-en
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And make comments in the google doc here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gydCJ3IFGsptk8BTYa8aQ5lF
>>>>>>>> -ddk_Q9DWja7bZIgsiY/edit
>>>>>>>> Note that ICANN staff have used this opportunity to include other
>>>>>>>> changes that the DT did not discuss.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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