[NCSG-PC] Endorsement of NCSG Comment on GNSO operating procedures change

Thu Aug 10 11:37:32 EEST 2017

Hi Matt,

I do think we can add a similar line to our comment .

Best,

Rafik

2017-08-10 17:19 GMT+09:00 Matthew Shears <matthew at intpolicy.com>:

> I'm drawing it to the attention of the PC - the issue of the role of
> Council was a contentious one in the DT with the BC and other suggesting
> that the Council was exceeding its role if it took on EC responsibilities.
> NCSG and RySG were aligned on this seeing no issue with Council assuming
> the role.   My question was whether we thought we should add a similar line
> on the role of Council in our submission.
>
> Matthew
>
> On 10/08/2017 09:13, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> are you suggesting a change to the comment? do you have some wording to
> add?
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2017-08-10 17:05 GMT+09:00 Matthew Shears <matthew at intpolicy.com>:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I draw your attention to this submission by the RySG:
>>
>> http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/comments-gnso-op-procedures-19
>> jun17/attachments/20170807/1d703c9a/RySGpubliccomment-GNSOOp
>> eratingProceduresandICANNBylaws-0001.pdf
>>
>> They note the following which we may wish to emulate (at a minimum the
>> first line I would have thought):
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *The RySG fully recognises the authority of the GNSO Council to speak on
>> behalf of the GNSO as Decisional Participant in the Empowered Community.
>> This is in line with current practice and working methods and respects the
>> existing equilibrium within the GNSO’s structure. The RySG agrees that on
>> this point no changes need to be made to the ICANN Bylaws in relation to
>> the role and description of the GNSO Council.*
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/08/2017 01:03, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> the deadline for submission is this Friday. I attached the clean version
>> for review. I understand that Matt, Poncelet, Stephanie support the
>> comment. we need to hear from other PC members.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> 2017-08-07 23:24 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin <
>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>:
>>
>>> I think that is a really good idea, as these are important procedures,
>>> and we need to be able to amend if required.  Hard to anticipate
>>> everything, in my view...
>>>
>>> SP
>>>
>>> On 2017-08-07 08:49, farzaneh badii wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I was on the DT group. I don't have the time to go through every single
>>> change and see if they accord with what we agreed on. If you want in the
>>> public comment we should ask that if later on during implementing the
>>> operating procedures we find out that  changes recommended by  DT   for
>>> some reason are not reflected in the new  GNSO operating procedures, GNSO
>>> should follow the DT advice in those circumstances and allow for the
>>> mistake to be corrected.
>>>
>>> Farzaneh
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Stephanie Perrin <
>>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It looks fine to me.  I don't have knowledge of or time to do the
>>>> research on the issues at the moment, so I hope that those who do can catch
>>>> things that need changes.
>>>>
>>>> cheers Stephanie
>>>>
>>>> On 2017-08-07 02:07, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> the comment is quite straightforward and supporting the changes
>>>> outlined in the public consultation.
>>>> we can have as the deadline for review and endorsement the 9th August.
>>>> I urge councilors, in particular, to review the changes since it concerns
>>>> the operating procedures.
>>>> Thanks, Matt again for the draft. I resolved the edits made by Ayden.
>>>> ant proof-reading and review would be helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>> 2017-08-05 6:33 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have made some minor alterations to style, but added nothing of
>>>>> substance. I hope someone with more knowledge of this issue will be able to
>>>>> contribute to our comment. Submissions are due in six days time. Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Comment on GNSO operating procedures change
>>>>> Local Time: August 1, 2017 5:35 PM
>>>>> UTC Time: August 1, 2017 4:35 PM
>>>>> From: matthew at intpolicy.com
>>>>> To: ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at GMAIL.COM>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>
>>>>> Wanted to get this back at the top of the list of to-do's as time is
>>>>> running out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Appreciate the comments from some of the PC members but would welcome
>>>>> additional inputs, thoughts, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> See google doc below.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27/07/2017 03:08, Martin Pablo Silva Valent wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt,
>>>>> I don’t have any comment to do, I agree with the statements and the
>>>>> wording. Let me know if I can do anything specific to help. Other than that
>>>>> you have my support. Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Martín
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 25, 2017, at 8:22 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> the deadline for the public comment is the 10th of August, we have to
>>>>> finish consulting with NCSG members, review and endorsement prior to that.
>>>>> I suggest 8th August as our internal deadline.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-07-25 23:28 GMT+09:00 Stefania Milan <stefania.milan at eui.eu>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Matt, thanks. What's the deadline for this? I am in transit (and in
>>>>>> fact, on holiday), witch sketchy internet access and the doc doesn't open
>>>>>> for me today (might be the poor connection...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Matthew Shears <matthew at intpolicy.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me qualify the last sentence - ICANN staff are not adding new
>>>>>> items in addition to the work of the DT, but rather adding references to
>>>>>> work done previously.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25/07/2017 16:05, Matthew Shears wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Calling all PCers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have started on the above public comment but am still going through
>>>>>> the consultation docs.  However, time marches on and we need to get this
>>>>>> one underway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, please review the consultation docs here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/gnso-op-procedures-201
>>>>>> 7-06-19-en
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And make comments in the google doc here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gydCJ3IFGsptk8BTYa8aQ5lF
>>>>>> -ddk_Q9DWja7bZIgsiY/edit
>>>>>> Note that ICANN staff have used this opportunity to include other
>>>>>> changes that the DT did not discuss.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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