[NCSG-PC] Fw: Re: Sessions in Johannesburg?

Wed Apr 26 17:59:52 EEST 2017

Rafik gave us some good suggestions. You can modify the slots based on his
suggestions ( maybe 30 mins outreach for the mornings so that does not
clash with GNSO). If I were you I'd ask for all those slots and play it by
the ear. But ehem reality hits that I am not you :) . If NCSG decides to go
with a lesser number of meetings I would like to request some slots for
NCUC so let me know soon so that I can put in NCUC requests.

Farzaneh

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Tapani Tarvainen <
ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote:

> Apologies, I missed the attachments. (I'm traveling, reading mail
> with small screen...)
>
> I'll take a closer look when I get home (in about an hour) but
> I doubt we can get that many sessions...
>
> --
> Tapani Tarvainen
>
> On Apr 26 10:39, farzaneh badii (farzaneh.badii at gmail.com) wrote:
>
> > Tapani
> >
> > Please look closely, both requests have titles and descriptions and
> agendas
> > are not needed for meeting requests and can be requested at a later
> stage.
> > I have worked on them and have submitted meeting requests which were
> > praised for being complete., if you don't submit these I will submit as
> > NCUC meetings.
> >
> > Farzaneh
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Tapani Tarvainen <
> > ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I have not seen even titles or descriptions, let alone agendas
> > > for the multitude of sessions proposed. I won't request meetings
> > > for NCSG without without descriptive title and proper description.
> > > I don't want to request meetings just as placeholders - every
> > > meeting needs to have a definite purpose. Asking for too much
> > > will make things difficult for schedule makers and they won't
> > > reward us for that.
> > >
> > > I don't really see the need for all that many meetings, but
> > > I can make the requests *if* I get good titles and descriptions -
> > > I won't make them up myself.
> > >
> > > Note also that we may not get all we ask and may not get the specific
> > > timeslots we ask for - sessions with flexibility in that regard are
> > > more likely to be accepted.
> > >
> > > Also, I'd rather not have any lunch meetings at all if it can be
> > > helped.
> > >
> > > I plan to request PC meeting with this kind of spec:
> > >
> > > "NCSG Policy Committee meeting, 90 minutes, before Council meeting, no
> > > overlap with any GNSO sessions or PDP WGs, if possible no overlap
> > > with Cross-Community discussions."
> > >
> > > I may not even bother suggesting any specific timeslot as it's
> > > likely to be ignored anyway - if they can come up with any time
> > > that fits those constraints it should be fine.
> > >
> > > In addition I'll request NCSG EC and NCSG FC meetings (with
> > > less restrictive overlap constraints).
> > >
> > > For anything else I'll wait for titles & descriptions and
> > > timeslot constraints. Remember, deadline is tonight.
> > >
> > > Tapani
> > >
> > > On Apr 25 18:00, farzaneh badii (farzaneh.badii at gmail.com) wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > Since I have a lot of time, I have written the NCSG meeting requests
> for
> > > > Tapani's consideration to submit to  Terri tomorrow. NCUC will
> > > participate
> > > > in all of the NCSG meetings but we might have a couple of informal
> > > meetings
> > > > separate from NCSG, I will ask for nonconflicting meetings.
> > > >
> > > > Note that I have asked for all the meetings to be public and in the
> email
> > > > to Terri we should be clear that we want meetings for all 4 days and
> they
> > > > are not just for one day.
> > > >
> > > > Best
> > > >
> > > > Farzaneh
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Matthew Shears <
> matthew at intpolicy.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > + 1
> > > > >
> > > > > On 25/04/2017 21:35, farzaneh badii wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Martin,  I think these can be  NCSG meetings which include both
> NCUC
> > > and
> > > > > NPOC. we should say in the description of the meeting that NCSG, as
> > > well as
> > > > > its constituencies, will hold these meetings but strictly talk
> about
> > > policy
> > > > > and what at the NCSG level we are working on. Based on each day
> GNSO
> > > > > program I think we could brief the attendees on the issues and our
> > > > > strategies to tackle the issue and also brief them on how we come
> up
> > > with
> > > > > policies.
> > > > >
> > > > > Farzaneh
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent <
> > > > > mpsilvavalent at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Maybe NPOC can pitch in the outreach session as well, Poncelet can
> > > maybe
> > > > >> bring that idea back if we decide to merge NCSG session with NCUC,
> > > after
> > > > >> all they share some common audience.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Martin
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Apr 25, 2017, at 4:11 PM, Matthew Shears <
> matthew at intpolicy.com>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I support this approach - thanks!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 25/04/2017 21:04, farzaneh badii wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hi Kathy, all,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Actually  it might make more sense to have NCSG meetings and not
> have
> > > > >> separate NCUC meetings. Because from the schedule I see, we cannot
> > > possibly
> > > > >> have meetings that do not conflict.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I think Tapani wanted the slots for Outreach policy practice in
> the
> > > > >> morning. which starts at 8.00 AM. If we can have 1 hour of those
> > > every day
> > > > >> and prepare people for the rest of the day that would be good. We
> > > might
> > > > >> have to just do 30 minutes lunch breaks (as instructed by the
> planning
> > > > >> team) to either strategize for the afternoon or meet with other
> > > groups.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I talked to EC members and they don't mind merging with NCSG. I
> might
> > > > >> reserve a 30 minutes lunch break for an informal meeting with
> some of
> > > the
> > > > >> board memebers but other than that I think we will be ok if NCSG
> can
> > > submit
> > > > >> :
> > > > >>
> > > > >> One hour morning sessions (outreach and policy strategy)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 30 minutes during lunch breaks
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If Tapani and the rest agree with that I will not ask for separate
> > > time
> > > > >> slots for NCUC.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Farzaneh
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Kathy Kleiman <
> > > kathy at kathykleiman.com>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Observer too to Farzi's important suggestion -- with follow-up.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Quick thought that we might want to have a longer NCUC/NCSG prep
> > > meeting
> > > > >>> (for all NCSG attendees) early on in the meeting. It would be
> good
> > > to have
> > > > >>> an arc of all the issues in Jo'burg we should be thinking about
> --
> > > and give
> > > > >>> people some time to think, research and read for a day before
> > > jumping into
> > > > >>> a WG discussion.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> - So 30 minute AM meetings for the daily briefing
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> - Occasional lunch sessions, including one with Board members
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> - An initial hour meeting at the very start (Monday AM?) to
> provide
> > > an
> > > > >>> arc of the issues we need to work on together in this meeting.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Best, Kathy
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On 4/25/2017 2:19 PM, farzaneh badii wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Hello PC
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Observer here: for NCUC, not to make a very busy schedule
> > > > >>> unnecessarily busier, I will send requests for 30 minutes morning
> > > sessions
> > > > >>> and 45 minutes lunch break sessions. Since I will not be there I
> > > would like
> > > > >>> some of the NCUC members on NCSG PC members to lead the
> discussions
> > > and
> > > > >>> prepare our members for each day. We might also arrange a 45
> minutes
> > > board
> > > > >>> meeting for NCUC during a lunch break.Please keep this in mind
> before
> > > > >>> submitting your requests, we don't want to have schedule
> conflicts
> > > with
> > > > >>> NCSG. If you want to also have similar half an hour morning
> sessions
> > > on
> > > > >>> policy strategy and outreach, let me know perhaps just joining
> NCSG
> > > meeting
> > > > >>> in the morning is wiser.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Farzaneh
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Tapani Tarvainen <
> > > > >>> ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> I'm fine with an extra PC session - at least we can ask.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Could somebody come up with a title and description for it?
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Deadline is tomorrow, and I'll be traveling most of the day,
> > > > >>>> like today (now in train) - I'll finalize this tomorrow evening.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Tapani
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Apr 25 17:59, Rafik Dammak (rafik.dammak at gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> > Hi Ayden,
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> > yes, we can do that. It is at the end a policy forum so
> > > discussing the
> > > > >>>> > scheduled topics and sessions, and planning response to public
> > > > >>>> comments and
> > > > >>>> > positions makes sense.
> > > > >>>> > I assume that should be on the last day so can we have it as
> kind
> > > of
> > > > >>>> > wrap-up session.
> > > > >>>> > Best,
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> > Rafik
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> > 2017-04-25 17:21 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <
> icann at ferdeline.com>:
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > >>>> > > Resending this, as the PC list dropped off inadvertently.
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > > - Ayden
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > >>>> > > Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Sessions in Johannesburg?
> > > > >>>> > > Local Time: 25 April 2017 9:20 AM
> > > > >>>> > > UTC Time: 25 April 2017 08:20
> > > > >>>> > > From: icann at ferdeline.com
> > > > >>>> > > To: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > > Hi,
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > > While I am open to meeting with other groups if time
> permits, I
> > > am
> > > > >>>> > > wondering if it might be more useful having two PC meetings
> ---
> > > one
> > > > >>>> of
> > > > >>>> > > which could be solely for discussing upcoming public
> comments,
> > > > >>>> allocating
> > > > >>>> > > them, and formulating our positions?
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > > Best wishes,
> > > > >>>> > >
> > > > >>>> > > Ayden
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