[NCSG-PC] Fw: Re: Sessions in Johannesburg?

Wed Apr 26 17:52:55 EEST 2017

Apologies, I missed the attachments. (I'm traveling, reading mail
with small screen...)

I'll take a closer look when I get home (in about an hour) but
I doubt we can get that many sessions...

-- 
Tapani Tarvainen

On Apr 26 10:39, farzaneh badii (farzaneh.badii at gmail.com) wrote:

> Tapani
> 
> Please look closely, both requests have titles and descriptions and agendas
> are not needed for meeting requests and can be requested at a later stage.
> I have worked on them and have submitted meeting requests which were
> praised for being complete., if you don't submit these I will submit as
> NCUC meetings.
> 
> Farzaneh
> 
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Tapani Tarvainen <
> ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have not seen even titles or descriptions, let alone agendas
> > for the multitude of sessions proposed. I won't request meetings
> > for NCSG without without descriptive title and proper description.
> > I don't want to request meetings just as placeholders - every
> > meeting needs to have a definite purpose. Asking for too much
> > will make things difficult for schedule makers and they won't
> > reward us for that.
> >
> > I don't really see the need for all that many meetings, but
> > I can make the requests *if* I get good titles and descriptions -
> > I won't make them up myself.
> >
> > Note also that we may not get all we ask and may not get the specific
> > timeslots we ask for - sessions with flexibility in that regard are
> > more likely to be accepted.
> >
> > Also, I'd rather not have any lunch meetings at all if it can be
> > helped.
> >
> > I plan to request PC meeting with this kind of spec:
> >
> > "NCSG Policy Committee meeting, 90 minutes, before Council meeting, no
> > overlap with any GNSO sessions or PDP WGs, if possible no overlap
> > with Cross-Community discussions."
> >
> > I may not even bother suggesting any specific timeslot as it's
> > likely to be ignored anyway - if they can come up with any time
> > that fits those constraints it should be fine.
> >
> > In addition I'll request NCSG EC and NCSG FC meetings (with
> > less restrictive overlap constraints).
> >
> > For anything else I'll wait for titles & descriptions and
> > timeslot constraints. Remember, deadline is tonight.
> >
> > Tapani
> >
> > On Apr 25 18:00, farzaneh badii (farzaneh.badii at gmail.com) wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Since I have a lot of time, I have written the NCSG meeting requests for
> > > Tapani's consideration to submit to  Terri tomorrow. NCUC will
> > participate
> > > in all of the NCSG meetings but we might have a couple of informal
> > meetings
> > > separate from NCSG, I will ask for nonconflicting meetings.
> > >
> > > Note that I have asked for all the meetings to be public and in the email
> > > to Terri we should be clear that we want meetings for all 4 days and they
> > > are not just for one day.
> > >
> > > Best
> > >
> > > Farzaneh
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Matthew Shears <matthew at intpolicy.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > + 1
> > > >
> > > > On 25/04/2017 21:35, farzaneh badii wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Martin,  I think these can be  NCSG meetings which include both NCUC
> > and
> > > > NPOC. we should say in the description of the meeting that NCSG, as
> > well as
> > > > its constituencies, will hold these meetings but strictly talk about
> > policy
> > > > and what at the NCSG level we are working on. Based on each day GNSO
> > > > program I think we could brief the attendees on the issues and our
> > > > strategies to tackle the issue and also brief them on how we come up
> > with
> > > > policies.
> > > >
> > > > Farzaneh
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent <
> > > > mpsilvavalent at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Maybe NPOC can pitch in the outreach session as well, Poncelet can
> > maybe
> > > >> bring that idea back if we decide to merge NCSG session with NCUC,
> > after
> > > >> all they share some common audience.
> > > >>
> > > >> Martin
> > > >>
> > > >> On Apr 25, 2017, at 4:11 PM, Matthew Shears <matthew at intpolicy.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I support this approach - thanks!
> > > >>
> > > >> On 25/04/2017 21:04, farzaneh badii wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Kathy, all,
> > > >>
> > > >> Actually  it might make more sense to have NCSG meetings and not have
> > > >> separate NCUC meetings. Because from the schedule I see, we cannot
> > possibly
> > > >> have meetings that do not conflict.
> > > >>
> > > >> I think Tapani wanted the slots for Outreach policy practice in the
> > > >> morning. which starts at 8.00 AM. If we can have 1 hour of those
> > every day
> > > >> and prepare people for the rest of the day that would be good. We
> > might
> > > >> have to just do 30 minutes lunch breaks (as instructed by the planning
> > > >> team) to either strategize for the afternoon or meet with other
> > groups.
> > > >>
> > > >> I talked to EC members and they don't mind merging with NCSG. I might
> > > >> reserve a 30 minutes lunch break for an informal meeting with some of
> > the
> > > >> board memebers but other than that I think we will be ok if NCSG can
> > submit
> > > >> :
> > > >>
> > > >> One hour morning sessions (outreach and policy strategy)
> > > >>
> > > >> 30 minutes during lunch breaks
> > > >>
> > > >> If Tapani and the rest agree with that I will not ask for separate
> > time
> > > >> slots for NCUC.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Farzaneh
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Kathy Kleiman <
> > kathy at kathykleiman.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Observer too to Farzi's important suggestion -- with follow-up.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Quick thought that we might want to have a longer NCUC/NCSG prep
> > meeting
> > > >>> (for all NCSG attendees) early on in the meeting. It would be good
> > to have
> > > >>> an arc of all the issues in Jo'burg we should be thinking about --
> > and give
> > > >>> people some time to think, research and read for a day before
> > jumping into
> > > >>> a WG discussion.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> - So 30 minute AM meetings for the daily briefing
> > > >>>
> > > >>> - Occasional lunch sessions, including one with Board members
> > > >>>
> > > >>> - An initial hour meeting at the very start (Monday AM?) to provide
> > an
> > > >>> arc of the issues we need to work on together in this meeting.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Best, Kathy
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 4/25/2017 2:19 PM, farzaneh badii wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hello PC
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Observer here: for NCUC, not to make a very busy schedule
> > > >>> unnecessarily busier, I will send requests for 30 minutes morning
> > sessions
> > > >>> and 45 minutes lunch break sessions. Since I will not be there I
> > would like
> > > >>> some of the NCUC members on NCSG PC members to lead the discussions
> > and
> > > >>> prepare our members for each day. We might also arrange a 45 minutes
> > board
> > > >>> meeting for NCUC during a lunch break.Please keep this in mind before
> > > >>> submitting your requests, we don't want to have schedule conflicts
> > with
> > > >>> NCSG. If you want to also have similar half an hour morning sessions
> > on
> > > >>> policy strategy and outreach, let me know perhaps just joining NCSG
> > meeting
> > > >>> in the morning is wiser.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Farzaneh
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Tapani Tarvainen <
> > > >>> ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> I'm fine with an extra PC session - at least we can ask.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Could somebody come up with a title and description for it?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Deadline is tomorrow, and I'll be traveling most of the day,
> > > >>>> like today (now in train) - I'll finalize this tomorrow evening.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Tapani
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Apr 25 17:59, Rafik Dammak (rafik.dammak at gmail.com) wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> > Hi Ayden,
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > yes, we can do that. It is at the end a policy forum so
> > discussing the
> > > >>>> > scheduled topics and sessions, and planning response to public
> > > >>>> comments and
> > > >>>> > positions makes sense.
> > > >>>> > I assume that should be on the last day so can we have it as kind
> > of
> > > >>>> > wrap-up session.
> > > >>>> > Best,
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > Rafik
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > 2017-04-25 17:21 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > > Resending this, as the PC list dropped off inadvertently.
> > > >>>> > >
> > > >>>> > > - Ayden
> > > >>>> > >
> > > >>>> > >
> > > >>>> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > >>>> > > Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Sessions in Johannesburg?
> > > >>>> > > Local Time: 25 April 2017 9:20 AM
> > > >>>> > > UTC Time: 25 April 2017 08:20
> > > >>>> > > From: icann at ferdeline.com
> > > >>>> > > To: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> > > >>>> > >
> > > >>>> > > Hi,
> > > >>>> > >
> > > >>>> > > While I am open to meeting with other groups if time permits, I
> > am
> > > >>>> > > wondering if it might be more useful having two PC meetings ---
> > one
> > > >>>> of
> > > >>>> > > which could be solely for discussing upcoming public comments,
> > > >>>> allocating
> > > >>>> > > them, and formulating our positions?
> > > >>>> > >
> > > >>>> > > Best wishes,
> > > >>>> > >
> > > >>>> > > Ayden
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