[NCSG-PC] Fw: Re: Sessions in Johannesburg?

Wed Apr 26 17:39:11 EEST 2017

Tapani

Please look closely, both requests have titles and descriptions and agendas
are not needed for meeting requests and can be requested at a later stage.
I have worked on them and have submitted meeting requests which were
praised for being complete., if you don't submit these I will submit as
NCUC meetings.

Farzaneh

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Tapani Tarvainen <
ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have not seen even titles or descriptions, let alone agendas
> for the multitude of sessions proposed. I won't request meetings
> for NCSG without without descriptive title and proper description.
> I don't want to request meetings just as placeholders - every
> meeting needs to have a definite purpose. Asking for too much
> will make things difficult for schedule makers and they won't
> reward us for that.
>
> I don't really see the need for all that many meetings, but
> I can make the requests *if* I get good titles and descriptions -
> I won't make them up myself.
>
> Note also that we may not get all we ask and may not get the specific
> timeslots we ask for - sessions with flexibility in that regard are
> more likely to be accepted.
>
> Also, I'd rather not have any lunch meetings at all if it can be
> helped.
>
> I plan to request PC meeting with this kind of spec:
>
> "NCSG Policy Committee meeting, 90 minutes, before Council meeting, no
> overlap with any GNSO sessions or PDP WGs, if possible no overlap
> with Cross-Community discussions."
>
> I may not even bother suggesting any specific timeslot as it's
> likely to be ignored anyway - if they can come up with any time
> that fits those constraints it should be fine.
>
> In addition I'll request NCSG EC and NCSG FC meetings (with
> less restrictive overlap constraints).
>
> For anything else I'll wait for titles & descriptions and
> timeslot constraints. Remember, deadline is tonight.
>
> Tapani
>
> On Apr 25 18:00, farzaneh badii (farzaneh.badii at gmail.com) wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > Since I have a lot of time, I have written the NCSG meeting requests for
> > Tapani's consideration to submit to  Terri tomorrow. NCUC will
> participate
> > in all of the NCSG meetings but we might have a couple of informal
> meetings
> > separate from NCSG, I will ask for nonconflicting meetings.
> >
> > Note that I have asked for all the meetings to be public and in the email
> > to Terri we should be clear that we want meetings for all 4 days and they
> > are not just for one day.
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Farzaneh
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Matthew Shears <matthew at intpolicy.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > + 1
> > >
> > > On 25/04/2017 21:35, farzaneh badii wrote:
> > >
> > > Martin,  I think these can be  NCSG meetings which include both NCUC
> and
> > > NPOC. we should say in the description of the meeting that NCSG, as
> well as
> > > its constituencies, will hold these meetings but strictly talk about
> policy
> > > and what at the NCSG level we are working on. Based on each day GNSO
> > > program I think we could brief the attendees on the issues and our
> > > strategies to tackle the issue and also brief them on how we come up
> with
> > > policies.
> > >
> > > Farzaneh
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent <
> > > mpsilvavalent at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Maybe NPOC can pitch in the outreach session as well, Poncelet can
> maybe
> > >> bring that idea back if we decide to merge NCSG session with NCUC,
> after
> > >> all they share some common audience.
> > >>
> > >> Martin
> > >>
> > >> On Apr 25, 2017, at 4:11 PM, Matthew Shears <matthew at intpolicy.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I support this approach - thanks!
> > >>
> > >> On 25/04/2017 21:04, farzaneh badii wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi Kathy, all,
> > >>
> > >> Actually  it might make more sense to have NCSG meetings and not have
> > >> separate NCUC meetings. Because from the schedule I see, we cannot
> possibly
> > >> have meetings that do not conflict.
> > >>
> > >> I think Tapani wanted the slots for Outreach policy practice in the
> > >> morning. which starts at 8.00 AM. If we can have 1 hour of those
> every day
> > >> and prepare people for the rest of the day that would be good. We
> might
> > >> have to just do 30 minutes lunch breaks (as instructed by the planning
> > >> team) to either strategize for the afternoon or meet with other
> groups.
> > >>
> > >> I talked to EC members and they don't mind merging with NCSG. I might
> > >> reserve a 30 minutes lunch break for an informal meeting with some of
> the
> > >> board memebers but other than that I think we will be ok if NCSG can
> submit
> > >> :
> > >>
> > >> One hour morning sessions (outreach and policy strategy)
> > >>
> > >> 30 minutes during lunch breaks
> > >>
> > >> If Tapani and the rest agree with that I will not ask for separate
> time
> > >> slots for NCUC.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Farzaneh
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Kathy Kleiman <
> kathy at kathykleiman.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Observer too to Farzi's important suggestion -- with follow-up.
> > >>>
> > >>> Quick thought that we might want to have a longer NCUC/NCSG prep
> meeting
> > >>> (for all NCSG attendees) early on in the meeting. It would be good
> to have
> > >>> an arc of all the issues in Jo'burg we should be thinking about --
> and give
> > >>> people some time to think, research and read for a day before
> jumping into
> > >>> a WG discussion.
> > >>>
> > >>> - So 30 minute AM meetings for the daily briefing
> > >>>
> > >>> - Occasional lunch sessions, including one with Board members
> > >>>
> > >>> - An initial hour meeting at the very start (Monday AM?) to provide
> an
> > >>> arc of the issues we need to work on together in this meeting.
> > >>>
> > >>> Best, Kathy
> > >>>
> > >>> On 4/25/2017 2:19 PM, farzaneh badii wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hello PC
> > >>>
> > >>> Observer here: for NCUC, not to make a very busy schedule
> > >>> unnecessarily busier, I will send requests for 30 minutes morning
> sessions
> > >>> and 45 minutes lunch break sessions. Since I will not be there I
> would like
> > >>> some of the NCUC members on NCSG PC members to lead the discussions
> and
> > >>> prepare our members for each day. We might also arrange a 45 minutes
> board
> > >>> meeting for NCUC during a lunch break.Please keep this in mind before
> > >>> submitting your requests, we don't want to have schedule conflicts
> with
> > >>> NCSG. If you want to also have similar half an hour morning sessions
> on
> > >>> policy strategy and outreach, let me know perhaps just joining NCSG
> meeting
> > >>> in the morning is wiser.
> > >>>
> > >>> Farzaneh
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Tapani Tarvainen <
> > >>> ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I'm fine with an extra PC session - at least we can ask.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Could somebody come up with a title and description for it?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Deadline is tomorrow, and I'll be traveling most of the day,
> > >>>> like today (now in train) - I'll finalize this tomorrow evening.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Tapani
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Apr 25 17:59, Rafik Dammak (rafik.dammak at gmail.com) wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> > Hi Ayden,
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > yes, we can do that. It is at the end a policy forum so
> discussing the
> > >>>> > scheduled topics and sessions, and planning response to public
> > >>>> comments and
> > >>>> > positions makes sense.
> > >>>> > I assume that should be on the last day so can we have it as kind
> of
> > >>>> > wrap-up session.
> > >>>> > Best,
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Rafik
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > 2017-04-25 17:21 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > > Resending this, as the PC list dropped off inadvertently.
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > > - Ayden
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > >>>> > > Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Sessions in Johannesburg?
> > >>>> > > Local Time: 25 April 2017 9:20 AM
> > >>>> > > UTC Time: 25 April 2017 08:20
> > >>>> > > From: icann at ferdeline.com
> > >>>> > > To: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > > Hi,
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > > While I am open to meeting with other groups if time permits, I
> am
> > >>>> > > wondering if it might be more useful having two PC meetings ---
> one
> > >>>> of
> > >>>> > > which could be solely for discussing upcoming public comments,
> > >>>> allocating
> > >>>> > > them, and formulating our positions?
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > > Best wishes,
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > > Ayden
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